Bandcamp is Joining Epic Games
https://blog.bandcamp.com/2022/03/02/ba ... ning-epic/
RIP Bandcamp
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- KVRAF
- 2034 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2034 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
Because Bandcamp was one of the best places to purchase DRM-free and lossless music. And Epic LOVES DRM and is hostile to their user base.
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- KVRAF
- 2429 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
Acquisitions of beloved companies rarely serve the interests of the audience who originally loved the company. But we shall see.
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- KVRAF
- 8109 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK
I guess people think of SoundCloud in times like this but that struggled/still struggles to make a profit, very different scenario to band camp. Could simply be a mutual beneficial agreement, Eric get share of profits, BC get more cash to develop sorry more. I'll cost optimism this time.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35439 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Not seeing any evidence of DRM on their other similar acquisitions, eg Sketchfab, or Quixel, or Artstation, nor is it enforced on the Epic Store either, or the Unreal Marketplace.teilo wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 6:12 pm Because Bandcamp was one of the best places to purchase DRM-free and lossless music. And Epic LOVES DRM and is hostile to their user base.
File under 'unsubstantiated FUD'.
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- KVRist
- 177 posts since 10 Mar, 2004 from Helsinki, Finland
All I can say is that Bandcamp incorporating DRM would be them practically signing their own death sentence. I mean, DRM doesn't exactly align with the values and statements posted in either of the news/blog posts:
https://blog.bandcamp.com/2022/03/02/ba ... ning-epic/
https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/ne ... s-and-fans
particularly "fair and open platform". So for now I'll take the "don't worry, ain't gonna happen" attitude.
https://blog.bandcamp.com/2022/03/02/ba ... ning-epic/
https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/ne ... s-and-fans
particularly "fair and open platform". So for now I'll take the "don't worry, ain't gonna happen" attitude.
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- KVRAF
- 8074 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
Things I am pessimistic about:
- Epic is acquiring a whole lot of other companies outside the gaming sphere because they have an overarching plan. That plan is not necessarily going to be what's best for Bandcamp or for musicians or listeners.
- Epic also owns Spotify, which is a much worse ripoff for artists than Bandcamp.
- Epic is getting into NFTs and crypto bullshit.
- It seems like every time a small and cool company gets purchased by a big corporation and they promise not to break things... they go ahead and break things.
We'll see. Tomorrow's Bandcamp Friday, I'm still releasing a new album and buying a bunch of music from Ukraine artists and labels.
- Epic is acquiring a whole lot of other companies outside the gaming sphere because they have an overarching plan. That plan is not necessarily going to be what's best for Bandcamp or for musicians or listeners.
- Epic also owns Spotify, which is a much worse ripoff for artists than Bandcamp.
- Epic is getting into NFTs and crypto bullshit.
- It seems like every time a small and cool company gets purchased by a big corporation and they promise not to break things... they go ahead and break things.
We'll see. Tomorrow's Bandcamp Friday, I'm still releasing a new album and buying a bunch of music from Ukraine artists and labels.
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- KVRAF
- 11313 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
I’m cautiously watching what happens but hoping for the best.
I don’t fault Epic for buying up all they can while they have the cash flow from Fortnite. It’s tough to say if the game will have the staying power of Minecraft so if I were them, I’d diversify too.
But I will always worry about what they could decide to do with Bandcamp if they feel it’s not turning the profits they believe it should be.
I don’t fault Epic for buying up all they can while they have the cash flow from Fortnite. It’s tough to say if the game will have the staying power of Minecraft so if I were them, I’d diversify too.
But I will always worry about what they could decide to do with Bandcamp if they feel it’s not turning the profits they believe it should be.
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- KVRAF
- 8379 posts since 18 Apr, 2004
Nothing in particular about Epic or Tencent but when a large company buys an indie and pinky swears not to mess with it, rule of the thumb is they will, eventually.
And “champions for a fair and open Internet”? Really now?
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- KVRian
- 1386 posts since 7 Dec, 2017
Maybe Fortnite will get some better music now because what they have now is unbearable. 
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- KVRAF
- 8511 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
Actually Fortnite is small potatoes for Epic I'm told. The Epic guy lives where I work, I never met him as he doesn't golf, but I know his neighbor well. We've talked about him on occasion, apparently they make most of their money off the Military. Epic has a hand in all their simulation tech. So despite the ridiculous amounts of money Fortnite brings in no doubt, seemingly it's nothing against government spending.
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- Banned
- 1646 posts since 4 Aug, 2017
Epic owns Spotify? I don't think that is true. However, it is true that most of the major labels/music publishers have a financial interest in Spotify.foosnark wrote: Thu Mar 03, 2022 1:36 pm Things I am pessimistic about:
- Epic is acquiring a whole lot of other companies outside the gaming sphere because they have an overarching plan. That plan is not necessarily going to be what's best for Bandcamp or for musicians or listeners.
- Epic also owns Spotify, which is a much worse ripoff for artists than Bandcamp.
- Epic is getting into NFTs and crypto bullshit.
- It seems like every time a small and cool company gets purchased by a big corporation and they promise not to break things... they go ahead and break things.
We'll see. Tomorrow's Bandcamp Friday, I'm still releasing a new album and buying a bunch of music from Ukraine artists and labels.
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- Banned
- 1646 posts since 4 Aug, 2017