New Arturia granular effect plugin

[Tj Shredder]

The easiest way to achieve this in a good controllable way, is to let it listen to incoming MPE notes and support MTS for microtonal scales… (to get the precise overtone series…)

i think granular pitch shifting just plays back the grains at a different speed so it could just play them 3x faster etc, not fully sure though

Yes, thats how it works usually. Variants of it can keep the duration of the grain or the size of the grain or something in-between... A Midi control simply needs to do the calculation for that, to get the correct pitch…
Also the envelope is important, as the grain size might introduce also a pitch not related to the material…
Granular pitch shifters work that way…

[Danno]

I'm really impressed with this one. Granular processing can be all over the map but I'm finding it easy to get great results with this.

[j wazza]

Yes, thats how it works usually. Variants of it can keep the duration of the grain or the size of the grain or something in-between... A Midi control simply needs to do the calculation for that, to get the correct pitch…
Also the envelope is important, as the grain size might introduce also a pitch not related to the material…
Granular pitch shifters work that way…

i meant that i didnt think it would need to work with midi, i think most grain delays dont as they can work just on audio

[Tj Shredder]

Its not a question if you need it. I certainly want it, and that desperately… The use case is obvious, comparable to a vocoding effect. You can create chords out of your signal. In granular pitch shifters its common, but with much less control and no way to navigate the (minuscule) buffer…

[j wazza]

Its not a question if you need it. I certainly want it, and that desperately… The use case is obvious, comparable to a vocoding effect. You can create chords out of your signal. In granular pitch shifters its common, but with much less control and no way to navigate the (minuscule) buffer…

yeah it would definitely be a cool way to play with the transposing using midi, is there anything that does that already? in bitwig i could use the pitch 12 modulator so that the midi note you play controls the transposing in a grain effect vst like this so may try that, but a granular synth could do that too

how is it similar to a vocoder?

[Tj Shredder]

Not that similar to a vocoder other than hat you get chords. The vocoder though plays chords on a synth sound, that gets modulated (filtered) by another signal (voice or drums). A granular pitch shift would create chords by pitch shifting the original signal… A vocoder needs two input signals, the granulizer one… Both could be controlled by Midi notes…
I did granular stuff in Max/MSP. The Grid in Bitwig still misses too much to create similar effects. Though the sampler already does nice granular synthesis, but you can’t fill its buffer in realtime with live input…

[WasteLand]

Not that similar to a vocoder other than hat you get chords. The vocoder though plays chords on a synth sound, that gets modulated (filtered) by another signal (voice or drums). A granular pitch shift would create chords by pitch shifting the original signal… A vocoder needs two input signals, the granulizer one… Both could be controlled by Midi notes…
I did granular stuff in Max/MSP. The Grid in Bitwig still misses too much to create similar effects. Though the sampler already does nice granular synthesis, but you can’t fill its buffer in realtime with live input…

the recorder in Bitwig cán. (not my own discovery... trying to built it in a more complex multiple stream, and per stream, well..)

[Tj Shredder]

The recorder is too limited, you can’t navigate, and can’t change the play speed. If it could share its buffer with a sampler, that would be different…
A lot of essential concepts in the Grid are missing… But its in an early stage, the future is promising…

[gExpectations]

Dear project manager, I just wanted to say i greatly appreciate the use of a flat interface, i understand this is majorly personal but I would like the arturia fx even better if they wouldnt all be such 3d clonkers.

[Sampleconstruct]

Interesting...

[Hanallred]

Picked this up yesterday for the $29 cross grade price. Very cool, but it even cooler that all the other fx collection plugins are M1 native as of today. Thanks Arturia!

[tibah]

Great one! Having loads of fun with this.

I was looking for a nice granular insert effect for some months now. Couldn't justify getting Portal for this kind of effect and Other Desert Cities was only close enough to what I was after, though I like it a lot.

Fragments fits perfectly in that gap I was looking for and seems to deliver and surprise constantly.

[WasteLand]

The recorder is too limited, you can’t navigate, and can’t change the play speed. If it could share its buffer with a sampler, that would be different…
A lot of essential concepts in the Grid are missing… But its in an early stage, the future is promising…

navigating is indeed difficult, play speed isn't possible. the last sentence is ironic?
the poly grid, as it is called, is quite excellent, some great features, but lacking some essentials, or essentials, the bitwig way, to put it that way.
it is a pity the poly grid has not more possibilities, some modules you can easily come up with, and implemented them, the formulas are out there, and could offer some counterwight to live suite (or live + MAX/M4L), with devices that are well, extreme for soundtreatment.

o well. not for a debate; i own both, i use both so...

but well, Crusher-X works in both, and Efx FRAGMENTS is quite good. (and with Silo and others, well..)

[morphex]

Interesting...

I spent a decent amount of time last night with Efx Fragments. Specifically, I wanted to hear close-up piano recordings and acoustic guitar being processed by the plug-in and the results were beautiful. This might be a great candidate for one of your future preset packs.

[Kalamata Kid]

The videos' I saw made the Efx Fragments produce mostly percussive sounds.
So far that did not inspire me to buy it.