Mac Studio

[UltraJv]

"dont care about the money"

lol - that excludes anybody sensible, especially professionals.

When I was still a working professional (retired now), one weeks graphics work easily paid for one of these new Mac Studio machines. Of course I cared about money, but the cost of this machine was insignificant and any improvement in productivity was well worth it.

That may have been true of the Intel Mac but with the M series, they arnt upgradeable nor repairable outside warranty. Also youre talking hypothetically and seem very confused as the Mac Studio has only just been released so you couldnt have bought one in the past. They are also now disposable. Not a good Business strategy for the end user. Apple refuse to join the right to repair movement, which is good for the consumer. Instead they have provided a self repair process whereby they charge ludicrous amounts for mundane self repair items. These will not include RAM, SSD or Processor. Caveat Emptor.

[Uncle E]

Well, you need to convince yourself its worth the money. Not sure what your basing that fantasy on but its not anything concrete. Mac owners just ignore the problems such as recent memory leaks, M series battery life being 5 hours rather than 20. SSDs waering out sooner than they should. Yea light years ahead lol.

FWIW, my Macs are all old (2011, 2012, and 2013) and were even second hand. I’ve owned close to 20 PC’s and none ever lasted that long.

[UltraJv]

Well, you need to convince yourself its worth the money. Not sure what your basing that fantasy on but its not anything concrete. Mac owners just ignore the problems such as recent memory leaks, M series battery life being 5 hours rather than 20. SSDs waering out sooner than they should. Yea light years ahead lol.

FWIW, my Macs are all old (2011, 2012, and 2013) and were even second hand. I’ve owned close to 20 PC’s and none ever lasted that long.

I work in IT. Youre talking BS or at least youre incompetent. Sorry but the 2 Billion Windows PCs in use today in Business speak for themselves. Interestingly, the Macs youre talking about were Intel. Lets see how the reliability of the M1 stacks up over time, bearing in mind, they arnt serviceable.

[pdxindy]

Well, you need to convince yourself its worth the money. Not sure what your basing that fantasy on but its not anything concrete. Mac owners just ignore the problems such as recent memory leaks, M series battery life being 5 hours rather than 20. SSDs waering out sooner than they should. Yea light years ahead lol.

FWIW, my Macs are all old (2011, 2012, and 2013) and were even second hand. I’ve owned close to 20 PC’s and none ever lasted that long.

I work in IT. Youre talking BS or at least youre incompetent. Sorry but the 2 Billion Windows PCs in use today in Business speak for themselves. Interestingly, the Macs youre talking about were Intel. Lets see how the reliability of the M1 stacks up over time, bearing in mind, they arnt serviceable.

Will you please stop turning another thread into useless Mac vs PC bs.

[UltraJv]

Well, you need to convince yourself its worth the money. Not sure what your basing that fantasy on but its not anything concrete. Mac owners just ignore the problems such as recent memory leaks, M series battery life being 5 hours rather than 20. SSDs waering out sooner than they should. Yea light years ahead lol.

FWIW, my Macs are all old (2011, 2012, and 2013) and were even second hand. I’ve owned close to 20 PC’s and none ever lasted that long.

I work in IT. Youre talking BS or at least youre incompetent. Sorry but the 2 Billion Windows PCs in use today in Business speak for themselves. Interestingly, the Macs youre talking about were Intel. Lets see how the reliability of the M1 stacks up over time, bearing in mind, they arnt serviceable.

Will you please stop turning another thread into useless Mac vs PC bs.

You dont have to reply. Will you please stop spouting anecdotal rubbish.

[Synth Master Jedi]

That may have been true of the Intel Mac but with the M series, they arnt upgradeable nor repairable outside warranty. Also youre talking hypothetically and seem very confused as the Mac Studio has only just been released so you couldnt have bought one in the past. They are also now disposable. Not a good Business strategy for the end user. Apple refuse to join the right to repair movement, which is good for the consumer. Instead they have provided a self repair process whereby they charge ludicrous amounts for mundane items. Caveat Emptor.

So don't buy one, this machine is obviously not for you.

This machine is right for me and I'll be getting one, as I share none of your concerns.

I've been using Mac OS for a very long time and have had many machines. I couldn't care less about self repair. After I use the machine for a certain amount of years, I'll sell it or trade it in when it's time to get a new one, or maybe I'll just keep it around, as I do with some of my older machines.

I will configure this Apple Studio to meet my needs, I know exactly what I need and what I prefer and the machine will last me for a number of years with the config that I choose.

The main question I have for myself is, is this machine going to allow me to create my music using a vastly more powerful setup and computer than I am currently using and will it last me for a number of years, and the answer to both of those questions is yes.

[UltraJv]

That may have been true of the Intel Mac but with the M series, they arnt upgradeable nor repairable outside warranty. Also youre talking hypothetically and seem very confused as the Mac Studio has only just been released so you couldnt have bought one in the past. They are also now disposable. Not a good Business strategy for the end user. Apple refuse to join the right to repair movement, which is good for the consumer. Instead they have provided a self repair process whereby they charge ludicrous amounts for mundane items. Caveat Emptor.

So don't buy one, this machine is obviously not for you.

This machine is right for me and I'll be getting one, as I share none of your concerns.

I've been using Mac OS for a very long time and have had many machines. I couldn't care less about self repair. After I use the machine for a certain amount of years, I'll sell it or trade it in when it's time to get a new one, or maybe I'll just keep it around, as I do with some of my older machines.

I will configure this Apple Studio to meet my needs, I know exactly what I need and what I prefer and the machine will last me for a number of years with the config that I choose.

The main question I have for myself is, is this machine going to allow me to create my music using a vastly more powerful setup and computer than I am currently using and will it last me for a number of years, and the answer to both of those questions is yes.

Back to basics. WIll the machine make you more creative? No. This is about gear lust. Nothing wrong with that. You just have to recognise that and then it all makes sense.

[Uncle E]

Youre talking BS or at least youre incompetent.

Thanks for keeping it civil. I’ve been using PC’s since the 80’s but, sure, please feel free to invalidate me when I’m simply sharing personal experiences.

[UltraJv]

Youre talking BS or at least youre incompetent.

Thanks for keeping it civil. I’ve been using PC’s since the 80’s but, sure, please feel free to invalidate me when I’m simply sharing personal experiences.

Sorry to hurt your feelings but my experience is the opposite to yours. I built the UK 101 Superboard and the White ZX80 in the early 80s before PCs were a thing.

[Synth Master Jedi]

FWIW, my Macs are all old (2011, 2012, and 2013) and were even second hand. I’ve owned close to 20 PC’s and none ever lasted that long.

My first Mac desktop bought in 2001 still works great to this day, though I admittedly do not use it much these days, unless I decide to turn it on for fun and for the sake of nostalgia. I even retrofitted it with an SSD a few years ago just for fun.

The price was around the same as the Apple Studio Max costs, and that was 20 years ago, so I don't find the current prices of the Apple Studio to be shocking or anything like that.

The computer is the most important musical instrument in my set up. I don't have a lot of hardware anymore and 99% of everything I do is now virtual.

[Synth Master Jedi]

Back to basics. WIll the machine make you more creative? No. This is about gear lust. Nothing wrong with that. You just have to recognise that and then it all makes sense.

Actually it will make me more creative, as I am very aware of how I work, how I like to work and I am also aware of the current limitations of the current machine that I have been using for some years now. I am also aware of the benefits and added power that the new machine will give me.

Being able to not freeze tracks and run an insane amount of plugins will free me from most of the limitations that currently exist on my current setup and that will make me more creative and allow me to produce things with less worry and less hassle as I do run some pretty large sessions from time to time.

I wouldn't say it's about gear lust for me, as I don't often buy new machines, even though I could upgrade every single year if I wanted to.

It's simply time for me to upgrade to a new machine, as it has been my plan for a while now. I've been waiting on a Mac Mini Pro for a few years now and it has now finally arrived, so I will put my money where my mouth is and I will buy one, as I have intended to do for a long time now.

Everything is going according to my plan, this purchase has very little to do with any gear lust.

It's a natural upgrade for me, as I usually upgrade my machines every 5,6 years or so.

[pdxindy]

This machine is right for me and I'll be getting one, as I share none of your concerns.

I've been using Mac OS for a very long time and have had many machines. I couldn't care less about self repair. After I use the machine for a certain amount of years, I'll sell it or trade it in when it's time to get a new one, or maybe I'll just keep it around, as I do with some of my older machines.

I will configure this Apple Studio to meet my needs, I know exactly what I need and what I prefer and the machine will last me for a number of years with the config that I choose.

I also don't care about self repair. I've rarely needed it, but if one of my computers needs some repair, I drop it off at the Apple store and it is taken care of.

I usually give the computers to someone who could use it after some years of my own use.

I don't plan on buying one of these Mac Studio machines as I recently bought the new 16" MBP and it is plenty for my audio needs. If this Mac Studio had come out first I would have bought one and then an M1 MB Air as a portable machine.

[Uncle E]

Sorry to hurt your feelings but my experience is the opposite to yours. I built the UK 101 Superboard and the White ZX80 in the early 80s before PCs were a thing.

It’s possible for two intelligent, knowledgeable people to have opposite experiences. I’m not going to insult you just because you don’t share my opinion, at least not over something as trivial as Mac vs. PC.

[UltraJv]

This machine is right for me and I'll be getting one, as I share none of your concerns.

I've been using Mac OS for a very long time and have had many machines. I couldn't care less about self repair. After I use the machine for a certain amount of years, I'll sell it or trade it in when it's time to get a new one, or maybe I'll just keep it around, as I do with some of my older machines.

I will configure this Apple Studio to meet my needs, I know exactly what I need and what I prefer and the machine will last me for a number of years with the config that I choose.

I also don't care about self repair. I've rarely needed it, but if one of my computers needs some repair, I drop it off at the Apple store and it is taken care of.

I usually give the computers to someone who could use it after some years of my own use.

I don't plan on buying one of these Mac Studio machines as I recently bought the new 16" MBP and it is plenty for my audio needs. If this Mac Studio had come out first I would have bought one and then an M1 MB Air as a portable machine.

Interesting shift in Mac user attitude here. You wouldnt buy a Car with that strategy, nor pretty much anything else. The world is moving back to right to repair. From a green point of view, its bad also. This is because companies like Apple force you not to be able to fix or upgrade. As a Mac user, you have no choice.

[Synth Master Jedi]

This machine is right for me and I'll be getting one, as I share none of your concerns.

I've been using Mac OS for a very long time and have had many machines. I couldn't care less about self repair. After I use the machine for a certain amount of years, I'll sell it or trade it in when it's time to get a new one, or maybe I'll just keep it around, as I do with some of my older machines.

I will configure this Apple Studio to meet my needs, I know exactly what I need and what I prefer and the machine will last me for a number of years with the config that I choose.

I also don't care about self repair. I've rarely needed it, but if one of my computers needs some repair, I drop it off at the Apple store and it is taken care of.

I usually give the computers to someone who could use it after some years of my own use.

I don't plan on buying one of these Mac Studio machines as I recently bought the new 16" MBP and it is plenty for my audio needs. If this Mac Studio had come out first I would have bought one and then an M1 MB Air as a portable machine.

Yes, if you recently bought a new 16" MBP, and it fits your needs, then it's understandable that you have what you need.

As for giving away older products, yes, that's what I also do with some of my Apple products. 3 of my older iPhones are now being used by other family members, as I give them away when I get a new one.

I've had many Apple products these past decades and the few times I had a hardware or technical issue with one of them, I walked into an Apple store and I walked out with a new device 10 minutes later.