Logic pro x vs ableton

[pdxindy]

But isn’t the OP specifically asking about Electronic music production (which likely does live on the grid)?

Anyway. I use both. I prefer Live because it’s what I’m used to and familiarity has its own benefits.

I also produce electronic music. It's just that my electronic music doesn't fit into the category of EDM. Electronic music is a massive tent.

These days, I would pick Logic over Live even for electronic music more on the grid. The new Logic Step Sequencer is the decider for me. It is the best software sequencer I have used. You can download a dozen different M4L sequencers for Live but none of them come close to Logic.

Plus there is Logic Remote.

[syntonica]

I hate to say it, but for strict four-on-the-floor, I'd probably go with Live. It's more immediate in many ways, compared to Logic, even with using templates. Setting up tracks in Logic has always been a PITA.

For anything else, I'd probably go with Logic.

Logic has always primarily been a tool to sell new Macs, same as FCP. The nice thing is that the cost of entry has come way down with the new M1 Macs for power vs price. As long as you don't suffer from FOMO, you don't need to install every OS or software update out there, and probably shouldn't, once your setup is stable and productive.

[THE INTRANCER]

Meet in the middle and choose Studio One. As it is Studio One is great for dance music production.

Ask ATB

[Rastkovic]

My real problem was that I had to change my mac every time logic made a big update, but right now same situation with ableton since version 9.

Why not stick with Live 10? It still works great....

[rob_lee]

Logic = No Brainer!
Ableton = Ok but Over priced!

[Rastkovic]

These days, I would pick Logic over Live even for electronic music more on the grid. The new Logic Step Sequencer is the decider for me. It is the best software sequencer I have used. You can download a dozen different M4L sequencers for Live but none of them come close to Logic.

Is it possible to transpose and reset a sequence per midi?

Is it also possible to use the step sequencer as a midi FX tool for processing incoming midi notes?

[voidhead23]

Why don't you just use what you're more productive in? I used to use Logic and made maybe a few tracks a year. Switched to Live and started making dozens. That was the selling point for me more than any individual feature, and i don't make electronic music. It also really depends on how you put songs together.

Live sucks the big one in terms of latency and resources. It was designed as a live performance tool and has never really addressed fundamental problems in the program that really interfere with basic recording and mixing tasks, and they take years of tracking down YouTube videos to even be aware of. I've found a lot of weird eccentricities over the years that aren't covered in the manual. That said, where it excels is ease of use, simplicity/limitations (both in design and also its effects and instruments), audio mangling and manipulation, and working to form disconnected ideas into a cohesive song in a really short amount of time. I also like the session view for coming up with ideas in different meters without fussing with the main Arrangement.

I've been making more basic metal music recently and, as such, have been courting Logic again. What i've found is that it's definitely a lot more solid and runs smoother than Live (at least on my system), is much kinder to my CPU and solves all of the weird mixing workarounds i have to do in Live. It just works out of the box, and is an absolute workhorse if you have most of your song structure already mapped out, or if your approach to song creation is more linear, less of stitching ideas together. It also has an absolutely superb UI. Where it fails for me is the creative aspect and simplicity...its routing paradigm is weird to me, even compared to something like Reaper. And why...for the love of all that is holy...can't i name MIDI notes in Logic? I use a Kontakt library for acoustic drums and programming that blind, with all the articulations, is just a pain. I can even do this in Live (with some fussing). I also find crazy sound design jam sessions harder to do in Logic.

[Dxnny]

MINIMALISM!!!

With Ableton you have all the tools you need to produce right in front of you!
-Clean interface with no distractions.
-Quick search bar for plugin/samples/presents all in one!
-Minimal routing, easy grouping.
-Now you can comp audio and midi (Logic used to destroy Ableton here...not anymore)
-You can save entire plugin chains and then drag and drop in to other project. You can even drag and drop entire tracks from other projects. (Huge time saver for drum patterns)
-Mac/Windows compatibility in case of collaboration.

Don't get me wrong Logic is amazing! I produced 3 years with logic. It has so many MORE features than Ableton but do you have time to learn them and used them all?

In my humble opinion learning just the basics of any DAW is enough: record, edit midi, and routing. Don't focus on learning every single little feature in the DAW, instead focus on learning to compose, arrange, sounds selection/sound design, mixing!

[dupont]

Everything but ableton live...If you're in techno music style, Bitwig is a better alternative to Ableton.
I use, Logic for composing or sounds design and if needed import stems to play live acts with bitwig, i can also prepare tracks straight in bitwig.
Currently spending more time with Bitwig than with Logic.
You can have both Logic and bitwig cheaper than the full live licence ... In my opinion live is overrated and I spoke with a coder, live is full of hard code as Bitwig has a young and fresh design UI.
Ableton invest lot of money in marketing that not a reason to say this is the best DAW.

Minimal requirements:
Bitwig 4.2 macOS 10.14
Live 11 macOS High Sierra 10.13
logic X macOS 11

It seems logic is the best choice if you want to keep you're mac longer with your DAW.

[Trensharo]

I hate to say it, but for strict four-on-the-floor, I'd probably go with Live. It's more immediate in many ways, compared to Logic, even with using templates. Setting up tracks in Logic has always been a PITA.

For anything else, I'd probably go with Logic.

Logic has always primarily been a tool to sell new Macs, same as FCP. The nice thing is that the cost of entry has come way down with the new M1 Macs for power vs price. As long as you don't suffer from FOMO, you don't need to install every OS or software update out there, and probably shouldn't, once your setup is stable and productive.

For the Original M1, yes, but those were only a step ahead of 4th Gen Ryzen APUs. The newer M1s are definitely better, but the price is back to normal Apple pricing.

The original M1s were prices lower to speed up adoption, which puts pressure on developers to support the platform. That was actually a brilliant strategy, but the newer models are quite expensive so I don't think that applies beyond the entry-level Apple Silicon machines.

Plus, they come with the same caveats as any other Mac. You have to customize based on future needs NOW otherwise you're going to regret it later on; and the Apple tax with those upgrades is... quite substantial.

That being said, the price difference between Logic Pro and Ableton Live Suite is so high that it can make up a decent amount of that on its own. You basically save like $350-500 depending on if you go Live Standard or Suite, and whether or not you're taking the discount coming from Lite (like $50 or so).

Or you can save several hundreds and get a PC and go with something like Cakewalk and spend that money on good plug-ins and Virtual Instruments.

I don't think DAW choice is all its cracked up to be. Most of it is marketing, even within user communities as people tend to push the DAW they use.

I prefer Ableton's long release cycle or Logic's free updates over Bitwig's subscription de facto, personally. If I had to choose between these two, I'd probably go with Logic Pro.

[Trensharo]

Meet in the middle and choose Studio One. As it is Studio One is great for dance music production.

Ask ATB

If Studio One is an option then Logic Pro wins easily, unless you're planning for a migration off of macOS.

To use Ableton over Logic, you need material rationale due to the insane price disparity. This is not something you can leave up to the opinions of users online. There is too much cash on the table. You need to download a trial and see for yourself.

Unless you're doing live gigs, I don't think Ableton brings enough value over Logic to be worth the additional cost outlay.

I don't think Studio One is worth twice the price, period. I wouldn't even consider it.

[dupont]

Yes, If you don't gigs with you're DAW, logic is far better than Ableton.

[syntonica]

I hate to say it, but for strict four-on-the-floor, I'd probably go with Live. It's more immediate in many ways, compared to Logic, even with using templates. Setting up tracks in Logic has always been a PITA.

For anything else, I'd probably go with Logic.

Logic has always primarily been a tool to sell new Macs, same as FCP. The nice thing is that the cost of entry has come way down with the new M1 Macs for power vs price. As long as you don't suffer from FOMO, you don't need to install every OS or software update out there, and probably shouldn't, once your setup is stable and productive.

For the Original M1, yes, but those were only a step ahead of 4th Gen Ryzen APUs. The newer M1s are definitely better, but the price is back to normal Apple pricing.

The original M1s were prices lower to speed up adoption, which puts pressure on developers to support the platform. That was actually a brilliant strategy, but the newer models are quite expensive so I don't think that applies beyond the entry-level Apple Silicon machines.

Plus, they come with the same caveats as any other Mac. You have to customize based on future needs NOW otherwise you're going to regret it later on; and the Apple tax with those upgrades is... quite substantial.

That being said, the price difference between Logic Pro and Ableton Live Suite is so high that it can make up a decent amount of that on its own. You basically save like $350-500 depending on if you go Live Standard or Suite, and whether or not you're taking the discount coming from Lite (like $50 or so).

Or you can save several hundreds and get a PC and go with something like Cakewalk and spend that money on good plug-ins and Virtual Instruments.

I don't think DAW choice is all its cracked up to be. Most of it is marketing, even within user communities as people tend to push the DAW they use.

I prefer Ableton's long release cycle or Logic's free updates over Bitwig's subscription de facto, personally. If I had to choose between these two, I'd probably go with Logic Pro.

I was speaking in Apple terms: the new M1 Macs have way more power than the older ones. If one is a PC aficionado, then there are a number of different paths one can take, as well, except buying Logic.

[pdxindy]

That being said, the price difference between Logic Pro and Ableton Live Suite is so high that it can make up a decent amount of that on its own. You basically save like $350-500 depending on if you go Live Standard or Suite, and whether or not you're taking the discount coming from Lite (like $50 or so).

Plus you save over time cause Logic updates are impressive and free.

[sQeetz]

I'd pick Logic if those were my two options.

That's what I did. Bought an used license of Live and sold it a couple of weeks later.