KVR Audio

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:06 am

kidslow wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 12:27 am Apple tends to backport to one previous release, and why would I want all the hassles of M1 AND all the hassles of Monterey? No way Jose.

I haven't had any hassles with Monterey. And Mac OS only goes forward from here. There's no going back... future versions of Mac OS will be built on Monterey. Unless you mean to say you bought a new M1 Mac but you're never going to update its OS?

FapFilter · Post by **FapFilter** » Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:15 am

No issues with Monterey either, but I don't have every plugin in existence (quite the contrary) and no experience with Exponential Audio.

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:22 am

I have had no issues with Monterey. Since I have an M1 Max, it's the minimum I can run.

As for backporting - if it's an OS rather than a Logic issue, no it won't be backported.

Rickskii · Post by **Rickskii** » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:22 pm

Error sorry

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:16 am

jamcat wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:06 am I haven't had any hassles with Monterey. And Mac OS only goes forward from here. There's no going back... future versions of Mac OS will be built on Monterey. Unless you mean to say you bought a new M1 Mac but you're never going to update its OS?

I will remain on Big Sur until some external event forces me to upgrade, like an unavoidable application update that requires an OS update. That's typically how I handle MacOS upgrades. I've been at it from 10.0 and avoided many problems with that strategy. To get on the hamster wheel of constantly upgrading your OS to keep up with Apple is not a game that I like playing. I stayed on Snow Leopard for over half a decade because it was stable. Likely my alternate system will remain on 10.14 for another 4-5 years so I can continue to have 32-bit support.

Apple does backport patches. Typically just security patches, but they have been known to update n-1 editions of the OS.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:20 am

kidslow wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:16 am
jamcat wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:06 am I haven't had any hassles with Monterey. And Mac OS only goes forward from here. There's no going back... future versions of Mac OS will be built on Monterey. Unless you mean to say you bought a new M1 Mac but you're never going to update its OS?
I will remain on Big Sur until some external event forces me to upgrade, like an unavoidable application update that requires an OS update.

Or... fixed ARA support?

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:44 am

not sure if it has been posted yet, the remaining D16 Group plugins will be released as major versions.
So a Big Sur/Monterey compatible version will be a paid upgrade.
https://helpdesk.d16.pl/knowledge_base/article/170

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:05 pm

jamcat wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 5:20 am Or... fixed ARA support?

Probably not important enough to make the jump, since there are workarounds, and it only impacts me with Melodyne in limited use cases. However if Izotope RX were to be added ARA support within Studio One, that might be significant.

Atlatnesiti · Post by **Atlatnesiti** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:16 am

Korg Opsix native and Wavestat native are Apple Silicone native
https://www.korg.com/us/news/2022/0322/

Weasel-Boy · Post by **Weasel-Boy** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:59 am

Martin Hairer’s Amadeus Pro audio editor is now Native. It’s kind of an inexpensive Swiss Army knife for simple audio editing.

Also recently discovered this: although KORG’s M1 (V2.2.1) is listed as Native, it’s audio unit version is not recognized in Logic Pro 10.7.2 under Monterey 12.3. The latest native version of Plogue Bidule does not recognize the M1 au either.

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:19 pm

Weasel-Boy wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:59 am Martin Hairer’s Amadeus Pro audio editor is now Native. It’s kind of an inexpensive Swiss Army knife for simple audio editing.

Also recently discovered this: although KORG’s M1 (V2.2.1) is listed as Native, it’s audio unit version is not recognized in Logic Pro 10.7.2 under Monterey 12.3. The latest native version of Plogue Bidule does not recognize the M1 au either.

If M1 2.2.1 is not recognized in Logic, then you have some other issue. It's definitely native. Even if it weren't, it would still be recognized in Logic.

As for Amadeus Pro, it is not native. It runs "smoothly" under Rosetta 2.

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:51 pm

Atlatnesiti wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:16 am Korg Opsix native and Wavestat native are Apple Silicone native
https://www.korg.com/us/news/2022/0322/

Ugg. KORG is so dumb. Their KORG Software Pass doesn't auto-update, and they unless you install the latest version, opsix and wavestate don't even show up.

Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:26 pm

Sonic Charge everything is now native and Microtonic ships with a few (4 lol) skins made by me

eagle007 · Post by **eagle007** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:19 pm

Plaster wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:07 pm On the Synchro Arts M1 page, they stated this
"All ARA plug-ins will cause Logic to crash when running in native Apple Silicon mode.
Apple will be rectifying this issue in future versions of macOS and Logic Pro.
Currently you need to run Logic in Rosetta mode."

Maybe Celemony is waiting for Apple to fix the ARA problems before they release a native update. Just speculating. It would be nice to have ARA back in Logic tho

Doubt it, as I just checkt their download site for the beta, and it states that it works fine in Studio One 5.4.1, which is also native. So it's probably an ARA bug in Logic.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:25 pm

Ploki wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:26 pm Sonic Charge everything is now native and Microtonic ships with a few (4 lol) skins made by me

Those skins look awesome Ploki!!! Well done! And thank you to Sonic Charge too for being so awesome to keep these absolute gems relevant for so many years!

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