Waveform 12

[jonljacobi]

Another oddity with the drum sampler, occasionally it won't grab files I've dragged to a pad. Closing and reopening seems to cure the issue. No further crashes. I will say this 12.0.53 seems to be much more stable than my last couple of go-rounds with 10 and 11.

[Watchful]

Never thought of it being sort of an odd way of composing music

It's not odd at all. When I said "weird," I meant that it's weird I never noticed this before. What you do is how we did it on hardware back in the day.

[sQeetz]

Never thought of it being sort of an odd way of composing music

It's not odd at all. When I said "weird," I meant that it's weird I never noticed this before. What you do is how we did it on hardware back in the day.

Now I'm curious as to how one would do it nowadays

[Watchful]

In my case, record the whole part in live, via loop, and then comp as necessary, before flattening. For drums or percussion, I will use the MIDI editor to put down parts in measures, altering measures as needed. Because it's possible to overlay clips so that 2 clips play at once on a single track, I can pop in fills and cymbals as needed.

I won't say I'd never use your method...because heck we sure used to, and as soon as I say something like that, I'll come across the need to do it in a week or less and feel terrible that I lied to you.

[rlared]

What's the advantage of this over for example Cakewalk by Bandlab?

[Trancit]

What's the advantage of this over for example Cakewalk by Bandlab?

It costs a lot more and there are more things not working correctly...

[Watchful]

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The biggest difference, by far, is that Cakewalk is an abandoned application; not by its users, to be sure, but there's no further development forthcoming. <- I am retracting these statements! And since Apple seems to require a complete rewrite of every plugin with every new product they come out with, I'd recommend against it. <- I am retracting this statement, too!

Waveform is definitely not for everybody: it definitely works differently in terms of where and how you do things from other DAWs, not because it wants to be different, but because it follows an input -> output workflow. I find its ability to route audio, with sends and returns and submixes, a huge asset in terms of creativity, as well as its racks features.

Check out any of the non-Tracktion videos on Youtube for some plain-speaking analysis (I strongly recommend the Lismore Music channel for an unbiased look at what it can do).

[Trancit]

If you read Trancit's posts, he has an obsession about Tracktion going back to the Mackie days. I wouldn't consider anything he says useful....

Even if I made this joke before and I had my rants about Waveform 9 and 10 being highly unstable (what they really were/are)...
but what you are saying isn´t true!

I never used Tracktion when it was Mackie...

I had a license for version 1 but never used it as it wasn´t my cup of tea...
I bought a license for Waveform 9 which wasn´t really useable because of it´s constant crashes...
I demoed Waveform 10 which gave me the same experience as V9...

Of course I ranted about that as I always found it a shame that this DAW with so many great ideas and features was that unstable and I will never touch it again but saying I would have an obsession about Tracktion is simply not true... maybe you are confusing me with someone else

[sQeetz]

I have a license of Waveform 11 and my biggest regret is that I didn't sell it before 12 came out.
I thought it to be interesting, but it turned out to be useless for the way I work...

[Danilo Villanova]

"Cakewalk is an abandoned application; not by its users, to be sure, but there's no further development forthcoming. And since Apple seems to require a complete rewrite of every plugin with every new product they come out with, I'd recommend against it."

Bro, Cakewalk's development is MUCH more active than Waveform and it's Windows only, watcha talkin' 'bout?

[Giova942]

The biggest difference, by far, is that Cakewalk is an abandoned application; not by its users, to be sure, but there's no further development forthcoming.

Development of Cakewalk is more active than ever.

It's getting a new release every two months, and some minor bug fixes and minor updates in between.

[Watchful]

If you read Trancit's posts, he has an obsession about Tracktion going back to the Mackie days. I wouldn't consider anything he says useful....

Even if I made this joke before and I had my rants about Waveform 9 and 10 being highly unstable (what they really were/are)...
but what you are saying isn´t true!

I apologize, Trancit!

[Watchful]

Bro, Cakewalk's development is MUCH more active than Waveform and it's Windows only, watcha talkin' 'bout?

Development of Cakewalk is more active than ever.

It's getting a new release every two months, and some minor bug fixes and minor updates in between.

I retract the comments! I don't know what I was thinking--I am definitely wrong about what I said; thanks for setting me straight on that! Sorry, folks!

[weedeeeter]

Why can't I watch videos (Youtube) or hear music (Youtube Music) from any web browser while Waveform is running? It'd be useful to be able to watch these videos while Waveform is running.

because of your audio interface, the one you havent given any details of.

Behringer UMC 1820

[weedeeeter]

Why can't I watch videos (Youtube) or hear music (Youtube Music) from any web browser while Waveform is running? It'd be useful to be able to watch these videos while Waveform is running.

This is a Windows issue, not a Waveform issue. This might help:

I've had this issue before, and the solution for me was to make sure the Waveform or Reaper project was set to the same sample rate as windows is.
If one is 44.1khz and the other is 48khz, I can't play audio from Youtube when the DAW is open
edit: It's also dependent on your ASIO driver. Some are exclusive, and won't allow multiple sources to access them at the same time.

I have this issue only with Waveform, but not with Reaper.