How to make 90's rave, happy hardcore lead?

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I like the mid 90's Rave and Happy Hardcore lately and the sounds used for the main melodies are quite similar to each other and I would like to get similar sound.

2 Brothers On The 4th Floor - Fairytales (start from 57 seconds)


4 Tune Fairytales - My Little Fantasy (start from 1:37)

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This is like a modern twist to a 90s rave sound in Vital
LD - 90s Rave.zip
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CHOOSX Remakes on my Youtube Channel

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Thanks CHOOS. I needed such a sound. I have an idea to create a track in the style of Happy Hardcore.
I created a melody which I found quite primitive but after speed up to 163 BPM I found it could be a good material for this type of track.

This is a very short very early demo of my experiment :D
https://sndup.net/vjpc/

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I like it! I feel like it needs an off beat bass along with the melody, Kick, Bass, Kick, Bass (at the same time as the open hat
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Most of these sounds in those days were sampled from records or synths. Don't ask me how i know.. been working on some stuff myself lately and found this library. It has ALL the elements you could be looking for.
Not affiliated, bought it myself as well. :D It's really really good stuff.
https://www.reveal-sound.com/store/prod ... Rave_Drums

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RenderFarm wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:35 pm Most of these sounds in those days were sampled from records or synths.
Yep, for the full 90's experience the created synth sound have to be loaded into a sampler and played then....

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Rastkovic wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:18 pm
RenderFarm wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:35 pm Most of these sounds in those days were sampled from records or synths.
Yep, for the full 90's experience the created synth sound have to be loaded into a sampler and played then....
I´d say that this is untrue. Definitely. Most people were much too lazy back then, others too dumb to handle sample mapping and the MIDI connection. But thanks to Roland all those guys could spread their word. JV2080 :wheee:

I don´t know exactly what it is, but there are some skinny and lifeless sounds in the first track that smell like a sound expander. GM stuff. And there´s nothing that really sounds Roland - I suppose maybe Quasimidi, Yamaha, maybe AKAI sample CD.

The off-synth is definitely a ROMpler or VA.

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HAL76 wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:06 pm
Rastkovic wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:18 pm
RenderFarm wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:35 pm Most of these sounds in those days were sampled from records or synths.
Yep, for the full 90's experience the created synth sound have to be loaded into a sampler and played then....
I´d say that this is untrue. Definitely. Most people were much too lazy back then, others too dumb to handle sample mapping and the MIDI connection.
Well, listen again to the time stamps that are mentioned in the first post. You can clearly hear the pitch shifting.

These are single samples, not multisamples. You don't need to do any complicated mapping for this.

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RaveGenerator and heavy layering gets you back to that age in general. MindFlux Studios is offering an alternative to the RaveGenerator plugin for Ableton as Freebie. At least the did in Jan 22 or Feb 22.

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Hell yeah. Old happy hardcore.

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Pumping Alien wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:33 pm RaveGenerator and heavy layering gets you back to that age in general. MindFlux Studios is offering an alternative to the RaveGenerator plugin for Ableton as Freebie. At least the did in Jan 22 or Feb 22.
This?
https://blog.wavosaur.com/rave-generato ... the-house/

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I tried to recreate the 2 Brothers On The 4th Floor sound, but at some point I left the path and went into a different direction. Well, I'm not really that happy hardcore guy.... :)

https://soundcloud.com/rastkovic/largo-hardcore-stabs

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HAL76 wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:06 pm
Rastkovic wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:18 pm
RenderFarm wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:35 pm Most of these sounds in those days were sampled from records or synths.
Yep, for the full 90's experience the created synth sound have to be loaded into a sampler and played then....
I´d say that this is untrue. Definitely. Most people were much too lazy back then, others too dumb to handle sample mapping and the MIDI connection. But thanks to Roland all those guys could spread their word. JV2080 :wheee:

I don´t know exactly what it is, but there are some skinny and lifeless sounds in the first track that smell like a sound expander. GM stuff. And there´s nothing that really sounds Roland - I suppose maybe Quasimidi, Yamaha, maybe AKAI sample CD.

The off-synth is definitely a ROMpler or VA.
Right, 2 Brothers already had multiple hit records at the time.. Full vocal productions in a period when recording to harddisk was still pretty new or not available. But yeah, they were too dumb to figure midi or samplers out... makes sense.. :hihi:

OP asked about the lead sounds and those were mainly single sample Juno type sounds or stabs from other records. The other sounds in these songs are either romplers from that era or samples from libraries. We used some analog stuff or Nordleads, JV1080's or JD-990's, M-1's, 01W's or Wavestations, Yamaha FB-01 or DX/TX bass sounds and a lot of Akai gear.

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In case you have VPS Avenger, and don't want to create your own sounds, you can check this soundset out from Demuvi..

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Rastkovic wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:15 am
HAL76 wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:06 pm
Rastkovic wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:18 pm
RenderFarm wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:35 pm Most of these sounds in those days were sampled from records or synths.
Yep, for the full 90's experience the created synth sound have to be loaded into a sampler and played then....
I´d say that this is untrue. Definitely. Most people were much too lazy back then, others too dumb to handle sample mapping and the MIDI connection.
Well, listen again to the time stamps that are mentioned in the first post. You can clearly hear the pitch shifting.

These are single samples, not multisamples. You don't need to do any complicated mapping for this.
"Multisamling" back then was different than today. 4 samples for the whole KB were a multisample - and - even more crucial - the ROMplers and sound modules used pitch shifted samples, too. Interesting to know: the biggest part of the E-mu ROMpler waves were --- One Shot samples. Unbelievable - it was all done with the Z-Plane filters.

Sound expander. GM sound expander.

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