KVR Audio

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:58 am

Hi, V.22 was the last Fedora distro that I've done an installation for, and now V.35 is ready. I'll be seeing what can be done with pipewire and alsa, before adding my jackd items. Most of the linux plugins folders can be dropped in place, paths intact, since I kept the same username from avlinux setups, and their repositories have a pretty good selection.

So far, I've added lxde as the system gui, and installed enough things to test audio, but will have to wait til my wife escapes the hospital. The Fedora install tools and defaults were truely appalling, to say the least. A horrid front for any newcomer, but they did lead with a login manager that allows choosing your system gui at boot, or I'd have tanked it for now

I'll post more about it as the week moves on.
Cheers

dellboy · Post by **dellboy** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:20 am

So being a relative newbie to Linux I downloaded Fedora and booted it as a live CD. I then tried to install Bitwig which it would not allow me to do because Fedora only uses ".rpm" packages and Bitwig is deb. Surely its better just to stick with Debian based distros for that simple reason?

I tried to get pipewire working in my Mint distro but without success. Is there a Debian based distro that has pipewire working out of the box?

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:32 pm

Hi, there have been rpm versions of bitwig in the past, converted by the alien command,
details and a couple extra steps used for converting bitwig 3.23 are in this blog post:

https://blog.lambda.cx/posts/bitwig-stu ... fedora-32/

Kvr member 'beerhunter' probably knows the current situation.
You can use what you see in Fedora live, and perhaps apply that to a modern debian system, although other system differences can be annoying at first. AVLinux based on MX Linux is a good bet to experiment with, as the developer gmaq is a musician, and never in hiding

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:04 am

In the video below, a free audio slicer is among 30 plugins shown, and it's available as a linux vst3, as well as win/mac. Scroll down the audioblast page for the links.

https://www.audioblast.me/download/

Each of the 30 plugins gets a short video, with dry and effected sounds.
Some nice unique additions for wine users short on cash.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Thu Mar 31, 2022 10:39 pm

Stochas sequencer will be getting help from the same great team of coders that brought Surge synth to new prominence. As it is, Stochas is easy to use, and several youtube videos point out features and example workflows, which I put to good use. In the photo, the different colored steps designate the probability of steps being triggered as the sequence loops. When you place a step, drag up or down to modify the probabilty, low, medium or high.

To aid quick useful input, you can choose from a dozen scales, so you can speedily fill in patterns that ignore notes outside the musical boundary. There are four layers of patterns if desired, so combined with the probability choices, lots of complexity is available. And using the multi-timbral Yoshimi means you can have pluk, pad, lead, and rythmic sounds each playing out their varied envelopes on each step. Left-click adds a step, right-click deletes it. The sundry youtube videos cover a lot more capabilities.

I set reaper to record live audio output, and let the experiments begin, changing settings and steps on the fly, for later editing.

Stochas-Yoshimi.jpg

empphryio · Post by **empphryio** » Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:05 pm

I'd like to hear your stochas music. I just got it a few days ago. Already made 4 tracks. Still working on increasing the complexity. I want to reach the point where one project file can spit out very different results each time. Possibly distinct songs almost. Not sure how possible that will be but figured out yesterday how to have one instance control another instance.

I wonder if there's a way to randomize DAW modulations.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:08 pm

Here's a little bit Stochas playing the DecentSampler Array Mbira, close to a loop. Videos from Audio Vitamins and Venus Theory, among others show lots of potentials. It's features and routings can be played live while recording, and if a stack of multitimbral sounds are loaded in Yoshimi, those can swapped in and out. The Surge team might like feature requests. Little pads to mute un/mute the four layers would be cool, might even be part of the workflow already, I've just started using it.

stochas-mbira-bongo.mp3.zip

empphryio · Post by **empphryio** » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:43 pm

I'll listen tonight. When using one stochas to control another you can randomly or purposely switch to another pattern and of course that pattern could be empty/mute.
Took me awhile to get that working right yesterday. Tried it out just with chord progressions but I want to add in random muting and coordinated yet random bridges, etc.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:48 pm

This one has Yoshimi synth with 5 different style sounds playing via it's multi-timbrality. Gonna be a lot of fun experimenting!

StochasYoshimi5sounds.mp3.zip

empphryio · Post by **empphryio** » Wed Apr 06, 2022 12:34 am

Sounds great. I have decent sampler. Need to get more of those samples.
I made this entirely with stochas. Each sound instance had 2 stochas. The first controlling the second, determining which pattern including randomly muting. The second randomizing some notes. So I rendered and on a whim did so for 6 minutes and pretty happy with how it worked.

But it's not Linux. Sorry. Found this thread via a forum search of stochas. I just use windows.
Listen to Stochasticly Not Particularly Surging by Baron Bodissey on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/XyMhx

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Thu Apr 07, 2022 11:23 am

Nice thing about the Pianobook-DecentSampler group, is that it's not about which OS or which daw etc, but rather making all the sounds available to all the musicians. I like your Stochas example, and also liked it played around 20% faster. It seemed to keep most of the character of the sounds, although doing A/B, I like the percussion tonality at your original tempo a little better. Stochas is a fun and powerful tool!
Cheers

3lu5iv3 · Post by **3lu5iv3** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:00 am

U guys should try Axyl and Archcraft. These are based on Arch Linux and they are gorgeous and quite stable.

audiojunkie · Post by **audiojunkie** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:11 pm

3lu5iv3 wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:00 am U guys should try Axyl and Archcraft. These are based on Arch Linux and they are gorgeous and quite stable.

Interesting! I had never heard of Axyl. I'm personally quite fond of EndeavourOS right now, but it never hurts to keep one's eyes open for new distros.

3lu5iv3 · Post by **3lu5iv3** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:02 am

audiojunkie wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:11 pm
3lu5iv3 wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:00 am U guys should try Axyl and Archcraft. These are based on Arch Linux and they are gorgeous and quite stable.
Interesting! I had never heard of Axyl. I'm personally quite fond of EndeavourOS right now, but it never hurts to keep one's eyes open for new distros.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 2:54 pm

The last Arch derivative I used was Garuda, and Manjaro a few years before that.
The main criteria for my most-used distro, is that it has the Synaptic package manager. I rely on that, and the various managers available in arch setups are still a day late and a dollar short, and I'm too old to settle for more work, and less recording time.

There is an excellent (Manjaro) Arch setup topic at the linux Reaper forum,

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=255313

and smart people are having great success.

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