Linux / Mac Users: Are You Protected?
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- KVRAF
- 1524 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
Do you you trust in Linux, MacOS/iOS OS security alone, or are there scenarios where you also opt for dedicated malware scanners?
The GAS is always greener on the other side!
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- KVRAF
- 35676 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Why did you post this in this forum?
"Hosts & Applications (Sequencers, DAWs, Audio Editors, etc.)"
Should be here, if then: viewforum.php?f=16
"Hosts & Applications (Sequencers, DAWs, Audio Editors, etc.)"
Should be here, if then: viewforum.php?f=16
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1524 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
Because the OS is part of the DAW? 
But that's only my take, mods can feel free to move it somewhere else if I’m wrong with my assumption
But that's only my take, mods can feel free to move it somewhere else if I’m wrong with my assumption
The GAS is always greener on the other side!
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- KVRAF
- 35676 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
A SATA cable if part of the DAW as well. Should we talk about SATA cables on this forum?
Your question doesn't have anything to do with "Sequencers, DAWs, Audio Editors, etc.". At least I don't see how it has.
Your question doesn't have anything to do with "Sequencers, DAWs, Audio Editors, etc.". At least I don't see how it has.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1524 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
Well to each his own, but at least to me, OS - thus system/DAW security concerns are a bit more important than what SATA cable you chose
P.S.: I didn't even find that forum before, so that's another reason.
Could have put it in the OT forum though if it's really that important to you
P.S.: I didn't even find that forum before, so that's another reason.
Could have put it in the OT forum though if it's really that important to you
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The GAS is always greener on the other side!
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- KVRAF
- 35676 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Ok, so you are asking whether people's Mac or Linux audio computers are protected? There's no word on that in the question, or any of the poll options.
And, even then it should be in the Computer configuration forum, as it concerns the computer, not the audio software on it.
And, even then it should be in the Computer configuration forum, as it concerns the computer, not the audio software on it.
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- KVRian
- 965 posts since 18 Jul, 2021
i have a computer in each room including the toilet. therefore i have no way of knowing which one this poll refers to despite it being on a forum dedicated to music plugins.
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- KVRist
- 66 posts since 12 Jan, 2006 from London
I just rely on security updates and being careful where I click.
Drawback is I have to upgrade the OS from time to time, to stay supported. Not an option if you're a working studio and can't tolerate continual risk of breakage.
Drawback is I have to upgrade the OS from time to time, to stay supported. Not an option if you're a working studio and can't tolerate continual risk of breakage.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Currently no, but I have. Currently Apple OS is so paranoid about everything it would be redundant I think. I had to buy a new machine which means the new OS.
I don't click on or peruse dodgy shit on the 'net.
I don't click on or peruse dodgy shit on the 'net.
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- Banned
- 1376 posts since 23 Jun, 2007 from france
I have never used a antivirus on mac since 2007 and some softs I DL are not "official" 
I had some issue with linux and Wine, somebody managed to take remote control of my computer. Some linux power users answered me wine could be the door for windows virussses. Wine removed and no more issue with linux after clean install since then.
I had some issue with linux and Wine, somebody managed to take remote control of my computer. Some linux power users answered me wine could be the door for windows virussses. Wine removed and no more issue with linux after clean install since then.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1524 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
Thanks, I’m still very inexperienced with Macs and wanted to know the experiences of other users.
Personally I’m in the “if I’m careful I should get along without scanners“ camp, though I have to admit that if not just for the peace of mind I should at least manually scan sporadically in the long run.
Even on my Windows 7 system I didn't have any alerts, strange behaviors, or hacked accounts for the last 10 years or so. In fact I never had anything worse than alerts before that, but Windows has gotten a lot better regarding security over the years anyway and unlike Apple or Linux distributions, it doesn't even try to pretend that there's pretty much no chance of catching something bad that I'm actually feeling safer on Windows.
But I of course just know it for ages and it has very good detection and removal tools onboard that work openly to the user and you don't just have to rely and have enough faith that maybe your OS is actually good enough to be secure without further ado.
I don't visit dubious sites and am cautious what to download, but to be frank, it is still not impossible to catch something even from your most trustworthy sources as they too are never completely safe from not accidentally distributing malicious software at one point
Personally I’m in the “if I’m careful I should get along without scanners“ camp, though I have to admit that if not just for the peace of mind I should at least manually scan sporadically in the long run.
Even on my Windows 7 system I didn't have any alerts, strange behaviors, or hacked accounts for the last 10 years or so. In fact I never had anything worse than alerts before that, but Windows has gotten a lot better regarding security over the years anyway and unlike Apple or Linux distributions, it doesn't even try to pretend that there's pretty much no chance of catching something bad that I'm actually feeling safer on Windows.
But I of course just know it for ages and it has very good detection and removal tools onboard that work openly to the user and you don't just have to rely and have enough faith that maybe your OS is actually good enough to be secure without further ado.
I don't visit dubious sites and am cautious what to download, but to be frank, it is still not impossible to catch something even from your most trustworthy sources as they too are never completely safe from not accidentally distributing malicious software at one point
The GAS is always greener on the other side!
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- KVRAF
- 7154 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
All three OS families are susceptible to viruses. Anyone who tells you otherwise has been misled or doesn’t have enough experience with computers.
Linux and Macs have less instances of viral attacks not because they are inherently more secure, but rather, because they are in the minority. People who write viruses target the biggest attack vector possible, and currently, the lion’s share of systems use Windows. Windows actively works to mitigate the risks, because being the most popular also paints the biggest target on their backs. If Macs or Linux systems were equally as popular, the these OSes would likely be targeted as equally.
That said, Linux does have a redeeming factor—their repositories. This redeeming factor is so important that Apple, and (finally) Windows created their own app store repositories. Repositories provide a better quality control—a source of apps you can trust.
The difference comes from the source of the trust: Closed Source/Proprietary repositories are monitored by companies. Open Source repositories are open for all to see and critique.
The chances are few people would catch any viruses if they obtained “all” of their software through the provided repositories. But as you know, that’s not always possible. Not every software package is provided in the app store. That’s where you have to be careful and use reputable sources.
Edit—I chose: “No - I’m aware of potential risks, but I’m careful enough that I shouldn't get into any problems”
Linux and Macs have less instances of viral attacks not because they are inherently more secure, but rather, because they are in the minority. People who write viruses target the biggest attack vector possible, and currently, the lion’s share of systems use Windows. Windows actively works to mitigate the risks, because being the most popular also paints the biggest target on their backs. If Macs or Linux systems were equally as popular, the these OSes would likely be targeted as equally.
That said, Linux does have a redeeming factor—their repositories. This redeeming factor is so important that Apple, and (finally) Windows created their own app store repositories. Repositories provide a better quality control—a source of apps you can trust.
The difference comes from the source of the trust: Closed Source/Proprietary repositories are monitored by companies. Open Source repositories are open for all to see and critique.
The chances are few people would catch any viruses if they obtained “all” of their software through the provided repositories. But as you know, that’s not always possible. Not every software package is provided in the app store. That’s where you have to be careful and use reputable sources.
Edit—I chose: “No - I’m aware of potential risks, but I’m careful enough that I shouldn't get into any problems”
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1524 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
just did some googling and found out that Apple's integrated malware prevention, detection and removal processes are actually very thorough, but just completely hidden to the user's eye unless they detect something.
I heard about these tools before, but wasn't sure how they worked
here's a link to Apple Support i sadly was only able to find in german, but most translators are working quite well nowadays
https://support.apple.com/de-de/guide/s ... d47bd8/web
Out of interest: do (some/all) Linux distributions have anti malware measures included?
I heard about these tools before, but wasn't sure how they worked
here's a link to Apple Support i sadly was only able to find in german, but most translators are working quite well nowadays
https://support.apple.com/de-de/guide/s ... d47bd8/web
Out of interest: do (some/all) Linux distributions have anti malware measures included?