KVR Audio

yul · Post by **yul** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:21 am

Thanks for your input and sorry for the late response! I will look into this! cheers

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:40 am

Well.. so far most posts here have been nostalgic (Space Debris always gets me) but I wouldn't call any of the music heard here "good" in the sense perhaps OP meant it. My guess is he was asking for more mainstream stuff.

Having said that, there's no real technical reason for not using trackers. I worked quite a bit with the Roland W30 at one point and I always considered it a tracker/sampler/hardware hybrid kind of thing.. and we all know that The Prodigy's first few albums were mainly done on that machine (several of them though.. running through mixing boards and a lot of outboard hardware). So basically one could have and still can do the same with trackers. I'd find it extremely annoying to mix the final product on it though.. same way I find it infuriating to try to mix in FL Studio. Doesn't mean it can't be done though.

JamesJulius · Post by **JamesJulius** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:26 am

This is cool - I've heard of the concept but never really heard anything made from it

t3toooo · Post by **t3toooo** » Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:37 am

Aphex Twin use (d) mostly hardware though,same as Squarepusher,since they are friends i thought they both pretty much used a certain style of setup.I guess Richard D. James helped Tom Jenkinson a lot to get his music floating.
I've read that Aphex used a Yamaha QY700 Sequencer (later for his more crazy stuff) which makes sense.

Iconoklast · Post by **Iconoklast** » Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:48 pm

Well, Not to revive such an old thread as I was not looking for it...But read it all in disbelief...

If you haven't heard GREAT Tracker Music you are not looking hard enough...

If you judge by say what the demo tunes are like in renoise...THEN DON'T!!...Most of those are from the programmers who maybe are great programmers but their music STINKS!...

You certainly don't need renoise either...

Here are some of MANWE's Tunes & select others in a tight-nit group...LISTEN & LEARN and also take into account most of these are 20 YEARS OLD & probably 70% done in Impulse/scream/schism Tracker...

https://sandsofficial.bandcamp.com/albu ... -anthology

May favs are Jazz Mood, Sands in Concrete, Summer Guitar, Neon City, Little Spider in the Forest, Song for Lena, Hot Sands...I better be careful I don't pick them all...

Most all these are BETTER than those using renoise RIGHT NOW!

And This is just one sector I could go on for hours!

For the visual oriented-

Danno · Post by **Danno** » Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:02 pm

Space Debris is awesome to this day.

For modern productions, Venetian Snare is great. And Hunz uses Renoise.

And lately I’m LOVING Pete Cannon (n4 records on Bandcamp). Awesome sounding rave/hardcore/breakbeat stuff.

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crickey13 · Post by **crickey13** » Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:40 am

Danno wrote: Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:02 pm For modern productions, Venetian Snare is great. And Hunz uses Renoise.

Also Mitch Murder.

skyscape · Post by **skyscape** » Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:35 am

As many have mentioned there are a handful of well known names such as Aphex Twin, Venetian Snares, John Frusciante, Mitch Murder etc. I seem to remember reading even Depeche Mode used Renoise on an album a while back (around 10 + years ago). Quite a lot of rave, early DnB etc was also done on trackers back in the 90's. I think the distinction to make about trackers is that the professionals that use them are often in different fields than your typical musical artist. I don't know why this is, but a lot of it is probably to do with their very close association to the Demoscene. They are still very popular among game developers and of course many many soundtracks from video games over the past 30+ years were developed on trackers. Even today developers are occasionally using old tracker formats such as .xm and .it for various reasons. It's by no means exclusive any more, but the ties are still strong.

Iconoklast · Post by **Iconoklast** » Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:31 am

Yup...Good points and yeah, the whole demoscene was awesome...That Farbrausch stuff was incredible how much video & music was mashed down into a 50-80 KB EXE...Not to be believed...

Just a few more here

Autumn in Budapest-

https://modarchive.org/index.php?reques ... ery=140628

Anemophobia-

https://modarchive.org/index.php?reques ... ery=135164

Anal Catharsis-

https://modarchive.org/index.php?reques ... ery=141679

There was one I really liked called 'Irrespective of Age' but sounded quite tinny so I remixed it in SkaleTracker & put it up on my Alonetone Acct...

https://alonetone.com/TalkOrBell/tracks ... ive-of-age

Here a few years ago I went to the ableton site just to see what's up & where 'their' music has gone & all I heard was absolute trash...Same with Reason...

I dunno, I guess since they are in the business of SELLING maybe it's wise to 'dumb down' the music so that a non-musician would say "Hey!...I can do something like that!!...I'll BUY IT!!"...

The BEST Reason demo tunes were in Reason 2.5 from 2003...Reason 3.0 was pretty good but not as...Starting Reason 4 and UP ALL DOWNHILL!!

Also though not included as demo tunes some of the best renoise work done in 1.8-1.9 which was 15 years ago now...

For any 'Renoisers' out there how would you like a trip? Here is a direct link to renoise 1.5 video tutorials & the guy uses Protracker (not Protrekkr) for the first tutorials, NOT renoise...

Slow connection BTW-

http://napodano.com/images/renoise/Reno ... s_V1.0.zip

Iconoklast · Post by **Iconoklast** » Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:10 pm

Here a few VINTAGE Renoise Wallpapers-

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:25 pm

You mean is there any music you really like done this way. "really good" is not going to be what it is for you and for me both.

Iconoklast · Post by **Iconoklast** » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:11 pm

Yes, obvious and opinions vary...But as you stated 'music' derived from 'muse' so it should have such qualities...If it is just the Blam-Blam-Blam-Blam-Blam-Blam-Blam garbage without influx, intonation or even breaks then it is a form of 'syncopation masturbation' no doubt...

Many forget that the space between notes is just as important as the notes themselves and a constant high-level 'wall of sound' that lacks modulation is boring yet many make 6-8-10 minute versions of such as it is relatively easy...

Unless you are SUPER GOOD your tunes should be short & to the point especially with everyone having attention spans of the goldfish mentality...

Even Mariachi bands who would perform long tunes would completely stop for a measure or two then start up right where they left off to 'Wake up the Crowd'....

It's a strange time with anyone can learn actual music for free on YT or other refuse to do so...In my time you had to pay someone 8-10 bucks an hour for lessons...

AdvancedFollower · Post by **AdvancedFollower** » Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:38 am

I think the best mods are those directly from the source back in the tracker heydays, e.g. Necros, Jester, Jogeir Liljedahl etc.
I believe Necros (Andew Sega) still used trackers while producing for Iris.

polac · Post by **polac** » Thu Apr 07, 2022 10:26 am

I believe Necros (Andew Sega) still used trackers while producing for Iris.

Yes, Necros used Jeskola Buzz for some of his albums, and in more earlier times he also used Impulsetracker.

Rastkovic · Post by **Rastkovic** » Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:08 pm

I really like the stuff by arcologies. From Ambient to IDM to Techno....

"astrologer" - renoise dub/deep techno template project

Any really good music made with trackers?