VSE-2 Plugin
https://www.vertigosound.com/de-de/prod ... e-2-plugin
Your favourite mixbus analog EQ plugin? ***Edit: Acustica Audio now allowed***)
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- KVRAF
- 1614 posts since 26 Jun, 2005
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- Banned
- 63 posts since 14 Jan, 2022
None of the EQs mentioned in this thread are really analog. They are pseudo-analog. Some of the ones mentioned don't even make a good attempt at emulating analog characteristics. In general plugins emulating analog hardware tend to sound obviously different from the devices they claim to model. I've listened to a shootout between Softube Curve Bender and the real thing and it sounded very different. Don't get me wrong: the Softube Curve Bender is still a nice digital EQ, but vastly overpriced considering that it fails to do what it says it does: emulating it's real world counterpart. Now Softube is not a bad company when it comes to modelling, imagine how much less accurate analog models of less sophisticated developers would be.
(German language, but easy to follow for non-German speakers)
Why would I use something that (unsuccessfully so) tries to recreate the character of a hardware device rather than using a precise digital tool that has all the tricks under it's sleeve to create good sounding output? Not to mention that Slick EQ M can in fact sound very analog if you want it to do so, but in a much more flexible manner than strict pseudo-emulations. You can for example use the LF and HF exciters to tune in exactly the amount of analog sound that you need instead of being stuck with one box sound. Sorry to say so, but most of the products mentioned in this thread are vastly inferior to what Slick EQ M offers. People fall prey to marketing promises and fail to scrutinise the claims due to inexperience.
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- KVRAF
- 3709 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
Depends, if the 'analog' EQ has to be modelled after a real hardware Device, or it is just taking an analog approach, like SlickEQ using curves and slight saturation. Which the latter does in a pretty good manner, imho.
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- KVRist
- 353 posts since 15 Mar, 2021
Yeah, what I meant was that Slick doesnt even claim to be analog emulation.Ikaz7 wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:13 amNone of the EQs mentioned in this thread are really analog. They are pseudo-analog. Some of the ones mentioned don't even make a good attempt at emulating analog characteristics. In general plugins emulating analog hardware tend to sound obviously different from the devices they claim to model. I've listened to a shootout between Softube Curve Bender and the real thing and it sounded very different. Don't get me wrong: the Softube Curve Bender is still a nice digital EQ, but vastly overpriced considering that it fails to do what it says it does: emulating it's real world counterpart. Now Softube is not a bad company when it comes to modelling, imagine how much less accurate analog models of less sophisticated developers would be.
(German language, but easy to follow for non-German speakers)
Why would I use something that (unsuccessfully so) tries to recreate the character of a hardware device rather than using a precise digital tool that has all the tricks under it's sleeve to create good sounding output? Not to mention that Slick EQ M can in fact sound very analog if you want it to do so, but in a much more flexible manner than strict pseudo-emulations. You can for example use the LF and HF exciters to tune in exactly the amount of analog sound that you need instead of being stuck with one box sound. Sorry to say so, but most of the products mentioned in this thread are vastly inferior to what Slick EQ M offers. People fall prey to marketing promises and fail to scrutinise the claims due to inexperience.
Anyway, it is all just a marketing gimmick as you said. Not sure if there actually has been a succesfull emulation - that earned to be called "analog". Funny nevertheless, since the essence of plugins is that they are digital, and there is no way arround that.
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- KVRian
- 807 posts since 7 Aug, 2015 from H2O
An interesting, almost-philosophical debate (though I'm sure it's quite scientific), but we're recreating "sounds"/instruments digitally that are quite authentic - why can't the "sound" of tape and tape saturation also be recreated quite authentically? I'm sure there are tons of similar threads on this and other forums debating this very topic, but the analogy, at least to me, isn't that far off. If we have authentically (yes, left to interpreation) created so many things in this world digitally, why not the sound of a console and recording to tape? Can it be that difficult and unacceptable as possible?
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- KVRist
- 365 posts since 16 Jul, 2021
Are you all using Slick EQ M just for mastering purposes?
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- KVRAF
- 4720 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Or right at the end of a mixing journey, as mixbus pre-mastering, to broadly nudge it in the right direction when the Mastering Engineer advises "Just make it sound as good as you can", provided other important factors are taken into account and you know what (damage) you are doing.Erik_Lucas wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:48 pm Are you all using Slick EQ M just for mastering purposes?
But the OP did say "aside from Acustica", because I must admit SlickEQ M is not my first choice - something like Erin, Azure or Opal EQ are.
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ApexSoundMusic ApexSoundMusic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=465605
- KVRist
- 50 posts since 14 May, 2020
DDMF 6144 EQ, without a question for me 
Using it for both regular mixing as well as mastering tasks
Must say I like the sound of tube style Lindell TE-100 plugin as well, but the the plugin's interface isn't as intuative as alternatives...
Using it for both regular mixing as well as mastering tasks
Must say I like the sound of tube style Lindell TE-100 plugin as well, but the the plugin's interface isn't as intuative as alternatives...
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- KVRist
- 353 posts since 15 Mar, 2021
Maybe its just a matter of semanthics. On the other side, what analog brings to the table is so subtle and not specified that its a hard debate. Me personally, I wouldnt be going for every plugin to be an amulation of specific analog gear. I like to add some saturation, make some eq moves to bring the warmth. I wouldnt call it analog, or analog wannabe - although my vision comes from that and is a bit chasing that sound. Its just going for that specific taste, but I think its in our ears and heads and can be acomplished without dedicated plugins. (if they make it easier is whole another world, but its a rabbit hole itself)Bodhisan wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:36 pm An interesting, almost-philosophical debate (though I'm sure it's quite scientific), but we're recreating "sounds"/instruments digitally that are quite authentic - why can't the "sound" of tape and tape saturation also be recreated quite authentically? I'm sure there are tons of similar threads on this and other forums debating this very topic, but the analogy, at least to me, isn't that far off. If we have authentically (yes, left to interpreation) created so many things in this world digitally, why not the sound of a console and recording to tape? Can it be that difficult and unacceptable as possible?