Cubase 12

[kritikon]

I'll never ever use Dolby Atmos I'm sure - but Cubase has a whole bunch of stuff I never use anyway. As a hobbyist I've always got by on the lighter versions, while yearning after maybe 1 or 2 of the Pro version features.

Likewise here. I used to use the full version but recent years went down to Artist. Apart from one or two plugins there's nothing in big brother that stops me doing anything. Even the recent channel limitations were removed in Artist but tbh it makes no difference...I don't need 3785 channels of audio with 500 groups. Thanks Steinberg but y'know...ho-hum. Dobly....the only time I ever used Dobly was on a Portastudio for tape back in the 80s...never going to need it again. But good that the choice is there.

And still seems like those that rush into new x.0 upgrades have a death wish. Always wait for the x.5 version imo and avoid the pain...but I do thank you all for personally beta testing for me.

[kritikon]

Double post.

[chk071]

I'll never ever use Dolby Atmos I'm sure - but Cubase has a whole bunch of stuff I never use anyway. As a hobbyist I've always got by on the lighter versions, while yearning after maybe 1 or 2 of the Pro version features.

The most severe thing for me in the non-Pro versions is the lack of some of the routing features in the Pro version. E.g., it's not possible to record the output of a VSTi. While you may not make use of that, I think it's something very basic and common. I really wished they would at least unify the routing between the versions. They can always make some more pro features only available in the highest tier version, but, routing is really very important, and should be the same in all versions.

[NER]

The most severe thing for me in the non-Pro versions is the lack of some of the routing features in the Pro version. E.g., it's not possible to record the output of a VSTi. While you may not make use of that, I think it's something very basic and common. I really wished they would at least unify the routing between the versions. They can always make some more pro features only available in the highest tier version, but, routing is really very important, and should be the same in all versions.

damn really that stinks. But alternatively, you could just use loopback (software or hardware) to do this specific thing.

[kritikon]

I thought it was only the real bargain basement one that disables that? Can't remember the name - the one they give away with cornflakes. Certainly Artist lets you record VSTi. I thought the next one down does also?

[chk071]

Certainly Artist lets you record VSTi.

Nope. Try it.

[rlared]

Certainly Artist lets you record VSTi.

Nope. Try it.

I have never wanted to use this feature though I've heard others mention it before. What's the difference between this and just freezing after recording the MIDI?

[Resonant- Serpent]

Certainly Artist lets you record VSTi.

Nope. Try it.

I have never wanted to use this feature though I've heard others mention it before. What's the difference between this and just freezing after recording the MIDI?

It allows you to play synths in real time and record as you do it. There are some Reaktor ensembles that you manipulate in real time that are impossible to freeze. That's what I mainly use it for.

[kev2525]

Certainly Artist lets you record VSTi.

Nope. Try it.

I have never wanted to use this feature though I've heard others mention it before. What's the difference between this and just freezing after recording the MIDI?

It allows you to play synths in real time and record as you do it. There are some Reaktor ensembles that you manipulate in real time that are impossible to freeze. That's what I mainly use it for.

Pro lets you record a vst, but the implementation is a bit rubbish imo. You have to send the audio to a group, and then route that group into an audio channel. Unless I am doing it wrong

[dionenoid]

Pro lets you record a vst, but the implementation is a bit rubbish imo. You have to send the audio to a group, and then route that group into an audio channel. Unless I am doing it wrong

Why not simply use realtime export ?

[kritikon]

TBH I've never tried recording a VST live, so I'll take your word for it. Not anything that I will ever want or need though. I can render plugins the usual way and can't see any scenario where I personally would want to do it any other way...why is it important to be able to render a live VSTi? Just curious.

[kritikon]

Pro lets you record a vst, but the implementation is a bit rubbish imo. You have to send the audio to a group, and then route that group into an audio channel. Unless I am doing it wrong

I remember reading some Steinberg forum thread about doing that for Loopmash and I wondered at the time what on earth they were going on about. Can't see why it's any more difficult rendering the usual way or why one would want to not render the normal way. Obvs everyone does things differently though...

[kev2525]

Pro lets you record a vst, but the implementation is a bit rubbish imo. You have to send the audio to a group, and then route that group into an audio channel. Unless I am doing it wrong

I remember reading some Steinberg forum thread about doing that for Loopmash and I wondered at the time what on earth they were going on about. Can't see why it's any more difficult rendering the usual way or why one would want to not render the normal way. Obvs everyone does things differently though...

One example I can think of is where you want to just play around with an effect and record the output and then chop out the bits you like later. Or in my case I have Maschine which has some inbuilt features that cannot be automated so you have to trigger them live as you go. Or perhaps you are a piano player and want to play live in time with your drums and just record the audio straight into your arrangement.

[Flip64]

I'll never ever use Dolby Atmos I'm sure - but Cubase has a whole bunch of stuff I never use anyway. As a hobbyist I've always got by on the lighter versions, while yearning after maybe 1 or 2 of the Pro version features.

The most severe thing for me in the non-Pro versions is the lack of some of the routing features in the Pro version. E.g., it's not possible to record the output of a VSTi. While you may not make use of that, I think it's something very basic and common. I really wished they would at least unify the routing between the versions. They can always make some more pro features only available in the highest tier version, but, routing is really very important, and should be the same in all versions.

Interesting, not something I've ever thought of using tbh but I can see that being useful. I can certainly "render in place" VSTi tracks in my Cubase v8 Artist though - that does me, really.

Does seem a weird feature to cripple though.

[dionenoid]

Pro lets you record a vst, but the implementation is a bit rubbish imo. You have to send the audio to a group, and then route that group into an audio channel. Unless I am doing it wrong

I remember reading some Steinberg forum thread about doing that for Loopmash and I wondered at the time what on earth they were going on about. Can't see why it's any more difficult rendering the usual way or why one would want to not render the normal way. Obvs everyone does things differently though...

One example I can think of is where you want to just play around with an effect and record the output and then chop out the bits you like later. Or in my case I have Maschine which has some inbuilt features that cannot be automated so you have to trigger them live as you go. Or perhaps you are a piano player and want to play live in time with your drums and just record the audio straight into your arrangement.

And that's why Cubase has "real time export".

It's in both Pro and Artist versions. It was briefly gone in Artist 11 because of a bug. It is not part of Elements i think.