“Being proud of Reason 12 while moving on with top priorities”

[Iconoklast]

Top Priorities?...You should be storing as much FOOD as possible cause soon there won't be any, That's the plan those in charge have....

The GOOD thing about VST3 is that alot of VST2 Devs are giving away entire collections for absolute free...I probably have enough to last 3 lifetimes...

No matter what the architecture of VST3 if one does not know music it will not make their music better having it...Same with old-vs-new DAW or sequencer....I still use Reason 2.5 & 3.04 as you can have 60-80 tracks going without fear of having to even think about 'bouncing', which they don't do anyway...Nice small GUI for netbooks as well...

[Smasha]

Why are we bringing politics into it,I'm left wing btw but not an extremist.
Get off the drugs.

How do you route Amplitude into the sends of the Mixer?

In Reaper it is very easy to do.

Just make a track,put Amplitude into it,then in the routing tab,send the signal to whatever track you like.

Reason you have all sorts of shenanigans going on.

Great for mathemeticians.

[sQeetz]

In Reaper it is very easy to do.
[...]
Reason you have all sorts of shenanigans going on.

Great for mathemeticians.

Once again: if you like reaper, then use reaper. I don't understand what the fuss is all about...?

[jjpscott01]

Its all subjective. For me its easier to do just about anything in Reason compared to other DAW's. Coming from being in rock bands when I was younger I guess the rack and cabling concept just works for my brain.

[Smasha]

I tried to make multi outs for a multi out vsti.

When I route single cables to the left inputs of the mix channels from the outputs to create SINGLE MONO channels,I still have the kick playing on TWO channels in the Reason Mixer.

Also reason does not support multiple midi ins.

A real drag.

It seems to be alot harder to achieve simple tasks in Reason compared to other DAWS.

How do you disconnect multiple cables at once?

Reaper is soo ugly but alot better to use even for dumbos like me.


I can make a multi out in Reaper easily.

Reason has some terrific stuff but if you brain is not mathematically inclined,you will hit road blocks all the time.

I guess I will use Reason at it's most basic level and try avoiding tabbing and seeing all the stuff there that is way beyond my brains limits.

The smart are spoilt rotten lol.

Us dumbos take forever learning this stuff.

What f

But DAWs are geared for the smart not the dumb in today's intellectually racist World (my left wing coming out lol)

How do you hide cables to see all the complicated Matrix stuff underneath?

I just want to know what those sockets I have no clue about actually do.

I know I have a mental disability and these DAWS are made for one brand of human only,the smart so they are very cold for us strugglers to work with and ultimately depressing.

I am un subsciribing,it's just waaay over my head this DAW.

I mean what do the Pre parallel sockets do on the back of mix channels?

I know with parallel compression in Reaper ,you can just duplicate a channnel and on one ofthe channels bring the compression way up and then mix that to taste with the original channel.

But in Reason,they go the The Matrix route,like playing a hard puzzle game.

My brain just locks up with that kinda stuff,it shuts down.

[jens]

I struggle with Reaper.

I call it the DAW for woke people.

It does EVERYTHING but it is not intuitive.

Designed for elitist wokers who know stuff inside out.

If you have anxiety or struggle with memory or just being a bit slow,forget it,this DAW is the master race of daws.

I just tried routing audio from a vsti track and I still could not get it to work,I wanted to try in real time.

I know you can build channels of audio from the VSTi in the FX options or rendering the vsti track as audio but I wanted to try the manual way but I could not get audio working at all.

I lmb dragged the routing from the vsti track to the audio track,tried ticking,unticking master send on either tracks,I tried every bloody thing but no bloody audio and that is Reaper in a nutshell,if you are not very cluey on these things it is looks down on you like the black dog.


Super woke daw.

What is the most intuitive logical daw for Windows?

Just does the everyday basics well?

Gave up.


I couldn't get the named marked tracks to render with their named titles in Reaper.

I used an action to convert regions from markers but when using the render dialog,all the regions can not be named as seperate tracks.

I have each track marker named with a Hash (#1 to #7, 7 tracks in the file) then it's title after that but Reaper can not see that marker info when rendering.

I tried converting regions from markers in Cakewalk and I don't think that has the function at all,here we are in 2020 lol.

DAWS by nature love to make the most practical,simple things very hard to implement then cram them with a billion functions and features we don't use.

I would have probably rendered em by now just doing it the old fashioned way by looping each track and rendering from the loop points.

Reaper,you are too hipster for your own good.

Could not even render tracks from markers.

Reaper "let's make the simple things harder"

P.S. Tried Cakewalk and that is worse lmao.

Do any DAWs add in features that actually work?

Like a very simple task like adding markers to the start of each song in a large file and rendering them as seperate tracks?

It's 2020 and daws still make this very simple task ridiculous.

Cakewalk ,you can't even do it,it is 2020 guys,lmaoooo.

God wept.

Bloody Reaper,poo DAW.

OK,having fun with the Mulab demo but now can't work out the simplest of tasks,how do I add an empty midi item?

I am left clicking on the screen,right clicking looking for an "insert midi item" dialog.

No menus to look this up.

I'm going senile.

P.S. duh,I have to hold down the left mouse button and drag an item into the arranger screen.

Odear.

Cakewalk for ease of use,REason because I can actually see with the new zoomfeature and Reaper when i want to hang myself because it sometimes works and only good for engineers,not musicians.

Reaper always gives me a fail somewhere down the line.

I used it to convert an old record I had since the 80s.

i record the tracks but now when I want to resize the items of the last track after the needle leaves the groove,i getthis strange behaviour.

Instead of just left mouse and dragging the end ofthe item to size,I get a green dotted line box being created OVER the WAV Item then when I place my mouse over this item,A razor tool appears.

i mean WTH???????

i installed the Ilogic 3.90 theme by Blank Files and I think this theme introduced this Twilight Zone Green dooted line Box.
I can't get rid of it either when going back to the default theme.

I got no idea how to reset my settings.

Reaper,designed to send us to early graves if Covid doesn't get us first.

I only used Reaper because of REAfir ,that plug removes clicks and pops or tries too.

Reason does not have these tools.

I might try an experiment and convert this vinyl in Cakewalk and see how much better I can finish it.

I will use one of my old 70's obscure jazz,prog,fusion,folk,heavy albums this time!

Reason is tremendous.

I can click away sections in a breeze(browser,Rack,Mixer,Sequencer,I have an ssl console at my disposal ,the sounds are awesome.
In it's advanced form,no,over my head,but at a practical level,love it and love it's stability also.

Reaper is good for editing but you get these errors and flaky ness which sendss you over the wall,and lots of stuff needs explaining,not easy to pick up.

Cakewalk NOW is stable as a rock but the HIPSTERs don't like it,it's not pretty like the others or "Cool" as Reaper but this is the GIANT of DAWS that gets pushed under the carpet.

It can do anything,a real swiss army knife,has great sounds included and FX that are incredible for FREE!!!

But we can't talk about Cakewalk to our mates and friends,they might look away after sipping their cafe lattes.

Our partners may leave us.

P.S. Found Silver Convention SAve Me record,COOL! Disco 70's STYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

think DAWs are overly chocked full of crap to cater for every Tom,Dick and Harry.

I just tried samplitude Music Studio.

When I insert a midi object,it gives me this tiny editor after I click the object.

It should fill the screen.

When clicking an object,it should size itself to fit in the screen space instead of a tiny little editor with crap crammed around it.

All these zoom functions lol.

Just click a track in the mixer then bang that mixer is the main focus of the screen.

Click a midi item or object,bam,that object fills the screen.

Why are DAWS crammed full of crap?

DAWs just aren't that intuitive to use or practical to use unless you are a techhead.

I'm a musician.

Seriously - you need to STOP this crap!

[BONES]

Most just keep users in the dark, leading to anger and frustration in the absence of information.

That's usually because there can be legal ramifications to doing this sort of shit which Propellerheads are either unaware of or stupid enough to think it won't come back to bite them on the arse. It's a bigger problem for publicly traded companies, who can be accused of manipulation gstock prices, but they could still get themselves sued if they promise something and fail to deliver it for whatever reason. e.g. When I worked for Autodesk, they had contracted this guy to integrate this amazing new feature for 3DS Max that he'd come up with but about 6 weeks out from release date, with the work half done, he dropped dead. Literally. And AFAIK that feature was never delivered. If they'd pre-announced it, they'd have been open to all kinds of law suits and possible criminal action.

There's zero reason to hang on to VST2, time to move on.

Not true - VST 2 instruments without built-in preset management work with host applications to display presets. VST3 doesn't, at least in Studio One. e.g. I can't see or use any of Olga's presets in S1 with the VST 3 version but the VST 2.4 shows a preset drop-down in the toolbar.

Why have developers need to maintain two versions of VST for both Windows and Apple? It's no economical.

Because Apple are lazy and it's less effort for them to drop support for any and all legacy platforms.

[jamcat]

This sounds like Olga hasn’t fully implemented VST3 preset handling.

[WatchTheGuitar]

Don’t know if there is a more specific Reason 12 thread, but latest version 12.2.5 crashed my Win10 PC after just adding three players and three instruments. It’s put me off using it standalone because it’s the only application I have that I can rely on to kill my pc on a regular basis. It kills it so entirely that nothing even gets written to the event log and I have to manually restart my PC.
Anyone else had similar? Any known ways to improve stability?

FWIW, Win10x64 AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, 32GB RAM, NVidia 1080

[jens]

I'm happily using V11, which is usually rock-stable here.

[kPere]

Im pretty surprised to see some people complaining about Reason being too complicated and hard to use. In my experience (FL, Pro Tools, Reason, Reaper) its the easiest of those that I've tried. Most user-friendly and workflow is fastest and pure pleasure.

Switched to Reaper though, since lack of VST3 support, some routing incapabilities and other minor stuff it lacks. But still cannot get Reason out of my head and would love to get back to it.

[aMUSEd]

This sounds like Olga hasn’t fully implemented VST3 preset handling.

That's right, I tried it a while back and it appears it has bulit-in presets but doesn't create a folder in the default location with .vstpresets for the VST3 version so I assume they are just using the VST2 standard as far as presets are concerned. If a VST3 plugin is using VST3 standard preset format and putting them in locations S1 know's to scan (which are also standardised for VST3) then it does show them in a dropdown, same as for VST2

[Scotty]

I don’t use Reason, but it’s really nice to see a developer be so forthcoming with their development plans and priorities. Most just keep users in the dark, leading to anger and frustration in the absence of information.

I agree. I don't use reason but wished all DAWs did this.

Frustration also comes in when a road map is released and the delivery isn't executed. It is a double edged sword. Still, I prefer having an honest account of where they are and what new thinking has had to emerge. I am bit surprised that they didn't see VST3 as a bigger priority though from the outset. Still a fan and will continue to support them.

[chk071]

I don’t use Reason, but it’s really nice to see a developer be so forthcoming with their development plans and priorities. Most just keep users in the dark, leading to anger and frustration in the absence of information.

It's kind of a modern thing though. Back in the days, nobody gave two farts about public announcements of what software will be like when it's released. People bought software for a purpose, and the one which was tailored the best to the needs was successful.

I understand though that in times of social media and all that, developers need to be open with their stuff, and always pretend that they do "what people ask" them to do. Although I really think that's just an illusion, and developers should rather have a proper vision of what their software should be. Which is what the people want. Or not. At least it's a vision, and not a mish mash of "a little bit of this and a little bit of that", which is neither fish nor flesh.

Like the peeps always asking for clip launchers in Studio One. Give me a hacksaw please.

[chk071]

Reason is actually the best example for that kind of thing. People always nagged them to implement VST. And now it's a VST host, which can't compete at all with other hosts in terms of functionality, instead of focusing on what Reason always was: A self contained modular environment, which just works, because it doesn't overwhelm you with all the offerings in the world, and which focuses on making music, not a gazillion of sequencer features. Reason used to be unique, now it's just pretending to be like all the others.