SILO - spatial reverb from Unfiltered Audio / PA

[zeph]

48 hour sale for $39.99. Just picked up for £13.50 using the survey voucher as well
Looking forward to experimenting with this.

Sorry to bother you. How do you get the survey voucher?

[nathanj]

You're supposed to fill out a survey from PA and they give you this code but its not unique and has been posted all over the forums now: USERSURVEY21QFK8H0T9

[kPere]

I just bought it for 14.99 after the loyalty voucher. I’m watching the Richard Devine walkthrough from the website. It’s just different enough from Byome or Triad to be worthwhile.

Thank God i watched that video. Sounds horrible to me, totally not musical. I mesn granular synthesis over all, now i know its not my thing. Does anybody actually achieve any satisfying effect that fits to a song with granular synthesis? Or is it just for the fun of playing with sound? I seriously cannot enjoy it, just wonder

[thecontrolcentre]

You're supposed to fill out a survey from PA and they give you this code but its not unique and has been posted all over the forums now: USERSURVEY21QFK8H0T9

Exactly the same as mine

[GaryG]

Yeah, his videos do highlight the more extreme side of granular imo. I can only speak for myself, I love playing with it from a sound design aspect but rarely come up with anything I'd think of as a conventional lead or whatever sound. It's strength for me is in creating textures, interesting pads, maybe strange counter rhythms you can layer with more conventional rhythm tracks.

If you want conventional sounds for conventional songs then you probably will be disappointed, stick to conventional instruments.

[thecontrolcentre]

I've used SILO mainly on drum breaks so far. It's cracking

[Neon Breath]

I just bought it for 14.99 after the loyalty voucher. I’m watching the Richard Devine walkthrough from the website. It’s just different enough from Byome or Triad to be worthwhile.

Thank God i watched that video. Sounds horrible to me, totally not musical. I mesn granular synthesis over all, now i know its not my thing. Does anybody actually achieve any satisfying effect that fits to a song with granular synthesis? Or is it just for the fun of playing with sound? I seriously cannot enjoy it, just wonder

Define musical. What does that mean exactly? A piano melody? Or a dance bass line? What is music for you can be annoying noise for me and what is music for me can be noisy crap for you. So musical doesn't mean much.

Now, regarding your question yes granular synthesis is vastly used in sound design and film scores. Especially those blockbuster sci-fi sounds you hear in so many today's movies often use at some point granular synthesis. It's also a really powerful tool for all kinds of experimental sounds, ambient pads, drones, atmoshperic textures, etc. If the technique exists and has been developed, it's because at some point it had to be and it is useful to someone. Clearly not you, but that doesn't mean it's not.

[Agreed]

I love SILO for doing weird sound design stuff that is difficult to explain. It be used to shape and texture sound in ways that are simultaneously surprising but predictable. Like, I can know why and what it's going to do and still end up with something slightly outside my expectations, and the ways that it enables me to manipulate pitch and position in the soundstage is really cool.

[kPere]

I just bought it for 14.99 after the loyalty voucher. I’m watching the Richard Devine walkthrough from the website. It’s just different enough from Byome or Triad to be worthwhile.

Thank God i watched that video. Sounds horrible to me, totally not musical. I mesn granular synthesis over all, now i know its not my thing. Does anybody actually achieve any satisfying effect that fits to a song with granular synthesis? Or is it just for the fun of playing with sound? I seriously cannot enjoy it, just wonder

Define musical. What does that mean exactly? A piano melody? Or a dance bass line? What is music for you can be annoying noise for me and what is music for me can be noisy crap for you. So musical doesn't mean much.

Now, regarding your question yes granular synthesis is vastly used in sound design and film scores. Especially those blockbuster sci-fi sounds you hear in so many today's movies often use at some point granular synthesis. It's also a really powerful tool for all kinds of experimental sounds, ambient pads, drones, atmoshperic textures, etc. If the technique exists and has been developed, it's because at some point it had to be and it is useful to someone. Clearly not you, but that doesn't mean it's not.

Well, you said it yourself - pada, scifi, texture, movie sounds etc. But would you use it in a song? I didnt mean to criticize anybody using it or enjoying, it was not my intent, trying to understand if people are using it on songs actually. I can surely imagine it creating effects for movies etc.
Thanks for the replies guys

[Tj Shredder]

Without stuff like that a song would be missing the spice… Of course a song doesn’t really need more than an acoustic guitar, but that works only live, there the spice is the performer…
And in case you think all music is just songs, you never left your rural village (which is beautiful for sure), but you haven’t seen the world yet…

[aMUSEd]

I just bought it for 14.99 after the loyalty voucher. I’m watching the Richard Devine walkthrough from the website. It’s just different enough from Byome or Triad to be worthwhile.

Thank God i watched that video. Sounds horrible to me, totally not musical. I mesn granular synthesis over all, now i know its not my thing. Does anybody actually achieve any satisfying effect that fits to a song with granular synthesis? Or is it just for the fun of playing with sound? I seriously cannot enjoy it, just wonder

Define musical. What does that mean exactly? A piano melody? Or a dance bass line? What is music for you can be annoying noise for me and what is music for me can be noisy crap for you. So musical doesn't mean much.

Now, regarding your question yes granular synthesis is vastly used in sound design and film scores. Especially those blockbuster sci-fi sounds you hear in so many today's movies often use at some point granular synthesis. It's also a really powerful tool for all kinds of experimental sounds, ambient pads, drones, atmoshperic textures, etc. If the technique exists and has been developed, it's because at some point it had to be and it is useful to someone. Clearly not you, but that doesn't mean it's not.

Well, you said it yourself - pada, scifi, texture, movie sounds etc. But would you use it in a song? I didnt mean to criticize anybody using it or enjoying, it was not my intent, trying to understand if people are using it on songs actually. I can surely imagine it creating effects for movies etc.
Thanks for the replies guys

Listen to Imogen Heap - she uses granular quite a lot in songs that are fairly mainstream (not 'pop' but still recognisably songs)

[highkoo]

I love it, and think its a special tool, but yea admittedly very much for its abilities in that realm on the edge of what might be considered 'musical' by a lot of people.

[highkoo]

I've used SILO mainly on drum breaks so far. It's cracking

The funnest time Ive had with it is feeding it a bunch of crazy bird sounds, and automating a bunch.
I mean.. really, some new noises rippin out of this thing.

[emulator01]

Hi all,

I just purchased SILO but I am not able to access the factory presets. Are there any presets included?
I am on Windows 11 with Cubase 11PRO and SILO was installed as VST3.

Any ideas from your side?

Thanks
Frank

[WasteLand]

Hi all,

I just purchased SILO but I am not able to access the factory presets. Are there any presets included?
I am on Windows 11 with Cubase 11PRO and SILO was installed as VST3.

Any ideas from your side?

Thanks
Frank

it seems a common problem with the latest PA installers, installers you can get from the website. also older versions, i believe, the will have the presets.

(but Silo and presets... well... my way of working... nevermind...)