Prices set to increase ?

[vurt]

luxury items.
don't buy if you don't need and don't like the price.
when no one is happy to pay the increased price, then it will return to the old. unless of course, enough people are happy to pay it...

If only people would think like that.

Also in regards of used gear prices. I see stuff on sale on Ebay, see the prices, and I'm like that people buy for such prices.

ive not even looked at anything except for a stand, which is only 50 quid

admittedly, for about 1800 quids worth of synth

[noiseboyuk]

As I reflect on this, I don’t think it’s going to be a terrible time for music-makers. But I do think it’s going to be a bad time to be a dev.

Wishing the good ones find a way through.

[vurt]

As I reflect on this, I don’t think it’s going to be a terrible time for music-makers. But I do think it’s going to be a bad time to be a dev.

Wishing the good ones find a way through.

hobbyists maybe, but people depending on income from anything art oriented, have a bad time in recessions. its one of the first things people cut back on, gigs/music purchases/cinema/streaming...

[Googly Smythe]

Does no one here remember when inflation hit 25% pa? With incompetent governments across the West, who don't know their arses from their elbows, expect worse in the next couple of years. Sew the wind, and all that.

[resynthesis]

Yeah, I get that cost of living increases impact everyone when inflation rises, including developers, but there's also no cost to manufacture or distribute software. Not quite sure how to feel about something like that. A small increase could also hurt sales and decrease revenue. There's got to be a reason why so much software is constantly on sale at deep discounts: it makes big bucks.

This is a good point. Granted, some overhead office costs will rise for software developers, but the costs for physical production just aren't there. I don't see why the software business should be as much impacted by inflation as are businesses dealing with physical products.

A small software company I know well would argue with you there. The administrator and cleaner have had a 5% pay rise, the office rental has gone up 12%, just spent nearly £10k on new computers, bills rising, etc. I'm not even going to mention the specialist network hardware which (post-Brexit, pandemic, inflation) is going to cost over £50k, oh sorry, just did

[Uncle E]

The war couldn't have happened at a worst possible time, but I guess they knew that.

Correct but also prices had already gone up in November. No one raised prices, we just didn't see the same heavy discounting that happened most other years.

[zvenx]

Imagine if we all figured out we didn’t actually need any new stuff.

wth.. someone take this guy around the back and have a few 'words' with him

rsp

[Tj Shredder]

Besides VPS avenger what other developers have announced price increase?

Where was this announced and what did they say?

From their FB group, posted by Manuel :

Due to the worldwide inflation and increase of prices, we are also forced to raise the prices for our products for a few % (after the current sale ends) My advice is to quickly buy now, because at the moment we have the 20% spring discount sale running until May. The Prices wont get that low anytime soon again.

This just the usual marketing trick to get you over the fence to accept a too high price tag… How often did we hear „lowest price ever we will never see it again“, and half a year later its below of that in another sale. I wonder how the overall revenue of a sale relates to the non sale revenue. All the KVR hobbyists buy only at sales, and for sure create more revenue than professionals who buy when they really need the stuff anyway.
On the other hand devs are not that much affected by supply chain issues and could fight energy costs by energy saving, which is mandatory anyway… In the end we all pay the arms industries, and if its just with VAT… My GAS at least never drove me towards Avenger, the only way to get me there would be a massive price drop… (in the area of 80%…; - )

[Saffran]

Ahum...cough, cough.
Not that anyone cares but...
I can't get over the fact that the title of the post is a statement and the post itself is a question.

Prices goes up when sellers can find a good motivation for it but never comes down again. That's capitalism and that's unfortunately what we have to deal with. Keep smiling or they catch you.

[concon]

Yeah, I get that cost of living increases impact everyone when inflation rises, including developers, but there's also no cost to manufacture or distribute software. Not quite sure how to feel about something like that. A small increase could also hurt sales and decrease revenue. There's got to be a reason why so much software is constantly on sale at deep discounts: it makes big bucks.

This is a good point. Granted, some overhead office costs will rise for software developers, but the costs for physical production just aren't there. I don't see why the software business should be as much impacted by inflation as are businesses dealing with physical products.

A small software company I know well would argue with you there. The administrator and cleaner have had a 5% pay rise, the office rental has gone up 12%, just spent nearly £10k on new computers, bills rising, etc. I'm not even going to mention the specialist network hardware which (post-Brexit, pandemic, inflation) is going to cost over £50k, oh sorry, just did

Again, these are overhead costs, and every business faces them. Separate from manufacturing and delivery costs for say, clothing, household goods. Software developers generally don't even ship DVDs in boxes any more.

[Biome_Digital]

but there's also no cost to manufacture or distribute software.

Oh, there really is a cost! Lots, actually.

[concon]

but there's also no cost to manufacture or distribute software.

Oh, there really is a cost! Lots, actually.

Really? Besides uploading and downloading on servers? How much does that cost?

[concon]

Ahum...cough, cough.
Not that anyone cares but...
I can't get over the fact that the title of the post is a statement and the post itself is a question.

Prices goes up when sellers can find a good motivation for it but never comes down again. That's capitalism and that's unfortunately what we have to deal with. Keep smiling or they catch you.

Capitalism just looks for meeting places between buyers and sellers. Logic Pro used to cost a lot more. I get the impression most software pieces add more and more features and keep the price the same. There is competition.

[Biome_Digital]

but there's also no cost to manufacture or distribute software.

Oh, there really is a cost! Lots, actually.

Really? Besides uploading and downloading on servers? How much does that cost?

LOL, there's a little more to running a business that sells digital products than "uploading and downloading on servers". When prices go up, they go up for everything from the domain name, to the electricity bill. Digital products do not manufacture themselves, there is a load of cost involved in the making, marketing, selling, and supporting them. At every stage someone takes money, the web hosting, the payment processor, the bank, the government, the electricity company, re-seller fees, the staff, online subscriptions for file storage, video hosting, the accountants fees!

That's not a comprehensive list. You could say "these are just overheads", but to make (manufacture) digital products you still have to pay for everything, or you will not get a product to market.

[donkey tugger]

but there's also no cost to manufacture or distribute software.

Oh, there really is a cost! Lots, actually.

Really? Besides uploading and downloading on servers? How much does that cost?

Wages, pensions, training, HR costs (for larger companies), promotion and advertising, equipment and software, office space, compliance with tax, data, company registration, and other regulations, heating and lighting, insurance, banking charges, accountancy and audit, etc etc.

Some seem to strangely think that software companies are exempt from all the requirements any other company has to meet. Their costs may not rise as disproportionately as say a manufacturing industry where the raw material price has increased, but rise they will, given the interconnected nature of businesses.