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If anyone knows...I had the Syntronik 1 Deluxe and have added the newer ones through the group sale without purchasing Syntronik 2 Max. I've been doing some sound design with Syntronik and the new synths' mod matrix edit page works for these, but not the Syntronik 1 synths.

If I get some of the Syntronik 1 synths (say for an original Syntronik 1 like Memory V) as Group Buy freebees...will it open up that capability for me? .

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Synthient Sound wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:01 am
If I get some of the Syntronik 1 synths (say for an original Syntronik 1 like Memory V) as Group Buy freebees...will it open up that capability for me? .
yes, but you'll have to download and install the new 'version 2' sound content for those synths. i.e you can't just unlock the new editing functionality in the version of Memory V that you have installed at the moment.

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Awesome, thanks @Octave_Jumper. I was hoping that was the case.

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Synthient Sound wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:43 am Awesome, thanks @Octave_Jumper. I was hoping that was the case.
Note that included the S1 presets can't use the new edit mode. They do not have the requisite WaveSets. But synths like the Memory V do have new S2 presets which can be edited with the new edit mode.

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Thanks @courtjestr, that is good to know.

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The state it is Syntronik 2 now (blurry GUI, high cpu demand for sample playback, high SSD/HDD space requiriment) is definatly not worth it...

I think even Nexus 2 standart edition is a much better buy even its not being intended as "analog" rompler. Actually any synth is a better buy since you can really mimic analog behaviour with most of them nowdays.

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DarkStar wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:02 pm @ Teksonik,

Yes, the Syn2 GUIs are fuzzier (blurrier) than their equivalents in Syn1. This point was raised with Support soon after Syn2 was released, along with the generally smaller text fonts and duller text colour (making it less easy to read).
The funny thing is MixBox has the exact same issue. In both cases, IK support seem completely clueless on the issue. They clearly messed up something in their GUI rendering code but it seems nobody at IK wears glasses so they didn't notice.
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DarkStar wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:02 pm @ Teksonik,
Yes, the Syn2 GUIs are fuzzier (blurrier) than their equivalents in Syn1. This point was raised with Support soon after Syn2 was released, along with the generally smaller text fonts and duller text colour (making it less easy to read).
Was there any acknowledgement from IK on the issue after it was reported? Is there a fix on the way or? Again not a deal breaker especially for the current price of admission but it seems like an odd step backwards in quality.
DarkStar wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:25 pm Try this (I have not tried it myself):
-- go to your User Area / My Products section on the web site.
-- look for Syner_V, select [Sounds Download],
-- download Part_1.zip from there (if present) and any other new ones,
-- extract the files from the .zip file to your Desktop and run the installer.
Repeat for the other synths.
That's exactly how I've been installing the libraries because my studio computer is on WiFi and this system is hardwired so hence has faster downloads. Also makes it easier to keep the downloads together and then back them up.

I only counted the Megawave presets so far and found only 64 while the product page says "112 instrument presets". I'll count some of the others I have installed later today and see if they have the same issue.

Anyway I see we've reached the 7 free level. I'm tempted to choose one of the older instruments from Syntronik 1 such as the SY99 to get the updated engine and I assume it will be updated to include the wavesets to be used on the edit page.
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In response to the original post: Update on the sequencer not pitch tracking. I tried it last night and sequencer is pitch tracking now. Maybe it was a glitch or it got updated?

I should mention this is with the free version.
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Teksonik wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:30 pm
DarkStar wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:02 pm @ Teksonik,
Yes, the Syn2 GUIs are fuzzier (blurrier) than their equivalents in Syn1. This point was raised with Support soon after Syn2 was released, along with the generally smaller text fonts and duller text colour (making it less easy to read).
Was there any acknowledgement from IK on the issue after it was reported? Is there a fix on the way or? Again not a deal breaker especially for the current price of admission but it seems like an odd step backwards in quality.
Nothing concrete, I'm afraid. Here, SampleTank 4 has similar problems.
Teksonik wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:30 pm Anyway I see we've reached the 7 free level. I'm tempted to choose one of the older instruments from Syntronik 1 such as the SY99 to get the updated engine and I assume it will be updated to include the wavesets to be used on the edit page.

With the older "Classic" synths, my understanding is that you get all the old instrument presets (as provided originally and in Syntronik 1 Deluxe) and some additional presets. Only those new presets can be edited on the Syn2 EDIT page and may or may not have multiple Wave Sets. But I have not been able to get a clear confirmation of this from IKM Support.

For example, the "Syntronik 2 - Bully" web page specifies "100 instruments, which is the same number (along with 9 arp pattern files) as were provided originally, and in Syntronik1 Deluxe.
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Cuauhtli wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:30 pm In response to the original post: Update on the sequencer not pitch tracking. I tried it last night and sequencer is pitch tracking now. Maybe it was a glitch or it got updated?

I should mention this is with the free version.
Which patch did you use that has pitch tracking in the step sequencer or can you upload if it was a custom patch?

I've tried with both the free and paid versions of Syntronik 2.
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DarkStar wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:56 pm With the older "Classic" synths, my understanding is that you get all the old instrument presets (as provided originally and in Syntronik 1 Deluxe) and some additional presets. Only those new presets can be edited on the Syn2 EDIT page and may or may not have multiple Wave Sets. But I have not been able to get a clear confirmation of this from IKM Support.

For example, the "Syntronik 2 - Bully" web page specifies "100 instruments, which is the same number (along with 9 arp pattern files) as were provided originally, and in Syntronik1 Deluxe
Oh well eventually once the GB gets over 11 free those of us who own Syn 1 will be choosing some of the older instruments so I guess we'll find out how those are handled in V2.

I've got two more free choices so may pick the SY99 just to see what happens but I'm still checking out the new instruments.

I just checked in the KW 8000 which is one of the new instruments and I count 81 presets, 91 if you count the Arps while the product page says "200 instrument presets".

So yes some clarification from IK is needed on both points.
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Oh son of a-. It's in the arp mode, not sequencer mode. You can use it as a traditional pitch tracking sequencer. You can set the intervals on the top row (default is 0). Then it plays the intervals based on what note you hold.
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Cuauhtli wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:22 pm Oh son of a-. It's in the arp mode, not sequencer mode. You can use it as a traditional pitch tracking sequencer. You can set the intervals on the top row (default is 0). Then it plays the intervals based on what note you hold.
Yes of course in Arp mode that's true but not in Seq mode which was the point. In Seq mode the range is from A-1 to C7, in the Arp it's plus or minus one octave despite what it says in the manual.

Ok which Osc will a sample get loaded into when I choose one from the wavesets?

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There is no indication of the active Osc. I've been caught out by that one a couple of times already. :?

(in the example above the sample will be loaded into Osc 3)
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It's true that it's not highlighted, but I find that when I click on the oscillator and then choose the waveset, that's the oscillator it goes into.
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