Pressure, that Reason Studios update Reason's workflow & sequencer

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As the tilte says...

It is very sad that they do not make any workflow & sequencer updates on a regular basis anymore. So lets make some pressure, that they start finally implementing DAW updates. Write them via feedback formular on their website or via soc. media, before too many people leave the boat!

Make them move, folks, make them move!

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The sequencer part of Reason has always seemed to be low on RS’s list of priorities. It is what it is, the only pressure companies understand is if you spend your money elsewhere.

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aallvor wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 9:22 am The sequencer part of Reason has always seemed to be low on RS’s list of priorities. It is what it is, the only pressure companies understand is if you spend your money elsewhere.
Lets make them move!

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Without any mention which workflow and sequencer updates you are looking for in detail, I doubt that this is in any way useful.

"Pressure" also never solved anything. Or do you like being pressured in your day job?

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Just don’t pay for it anymore, best pressure you can apply.

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To be honest I always loved Reason's workflow - simplicity of it's sequencer as well. It does great job at composing (specially with MIDI). Reason was always lacking lots of other things.

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Danilo Villanova wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:10 pm Just don’t pay for it anymore, best pressure you can apply.
I wonder why so few realize that it is best to vote with your wallet. Or, rather, that it's the only way.

Threads like these are just there to express a personal opinion, which could be anything but popular.

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kPere wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:04 pm To be honest I always loved Reason's workflow - simplicity of it's sequencer as well. It does great job at composing (specially with MIDI). Reason was always lacking lots of other things.
Then you maybe never worked with a huge amount of mixer channels/devices + automation lanes.

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LaLivre wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:18 pm
kPere wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:04 pm To be honest I always loved Reason's workflow - simplicity of it's sequencer as well. It does great job at composing (specially with MIDI). Reason was always lacking lots of other things.
Then you maybe never worked with a huge amount of mixer channels/devices + automation lanes.
Yeah, I mentioned composing. I'm doing my mixing duties in Pro Tools/Reaper. Reaper as a whole is like flipped in a bit different direction - sound design, composing, laying out ideas - a sketchpad/playground. It's the way I see it, maybe not only me.

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chk071 wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:06 pm
Danilo Villanova wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:10 pm Just don’t pay for it anymore, best pressure you can apply.
I wonder why so few realize that it is best to vote with your wallet. Or, rather, that it's the only way.

Threads like these are just there to express a personal opinion, which could be anything but popular.
I don't know, there's that old saying - "the sneaky wheel gets the grease". But that said, I have no idea what kind of pressure would possibly work to influence the development of a piece of software.

Not buying the software isn't likely going to have any effect. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't notice!
After all, I'm not buying the absolutely vast majority of things that are for sale in the world, and I don't see any of those companies altering their products to make me like them better.

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MTorn wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:01 pm Not buying the software isn't likely going to have any effect. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't notice!
The question is, what do threads like these change, especially as it's totally unclear what in detail the OP wants to have changed, and if those wishes for a change are shared by any other users.

No buy, and switching to something which rather suits ones needs is much more sensible.

Or, of course, you could accept that no software is perfect, and tailored perfectly to a person's subjective needs, and just go on making music with it. There's enough professional music made with Reason every day that I doubt that someone wouldn't be able to make music with it.

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Hanging around Reasontalk for a while makes it pretty clear what the broad strokes for DAW improvements people wish for are (and are not getting). Personally I don’t have those exact wishes, but it would be nice to see at least a little progress in that direction.

Switching to other software that better suits ones needs would be lovely, if such software existed.
Instead we pick the closest we can get. And with the feature set of any DAW constantly shifting (less so with Reason), there’s always the hope that your chosen one shifts a bit closer towards your ideal.
In the last year or two I’ve seriously tried out and considered Logic Pro, Studio One, Live, Bitwig, Tracktion, Reaper, and Mulab. What’s left? Cakewalk and Performer perhaps. Reason is still the closest for me, but less and less so lately.

With ALL of the DAWs (or obviously even in the pre DAW era), you can absolutely make professional tracks.
But for us who don’t HAVE to record music, and do to it for the pure fun of it, all those things that are tedious, irritating, or frustrating will reduce our wish to bother with any of it in the first place.

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MTorn wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 5:30 am Hanging around Reasontalk for a while makes it pretty clear what the broad strokes for DAW improvements people wish for are (and are not getting). Personally I don’t have those exact wishes, but it would be nice to see at least a little progress in that direction.

Switching to other software that better suits ones needs would be lovely, if such software existed.
Instead we pick the closest we can get. And with the feature set of any DAW constantly shifting (less so with Reason), there’s always the hope that your chosen one shifts a bit closer towards your ideal.
In the last year or two I’ve seriously tried out and considered Logic Pro, Studio One, Live, Bitwig, Tracktion, Reaper, and Mulab. What’s left? Cakewalk and Performer perhaps. Reason is still the closest for me, but less and less so lately.

With ALL of the DAWs (or obviously even in the pre DAW era), you can absolutely make professional tracks.
But for us who don’t HAVE to record music, and do to it for the pure fun of it, all those things that are tedious, irritating, or frustrating will reduce our wish to bother with any of it in the first place.
How about using Reason Rack Plugin in some other DAW? It's how I do it lately in Reaper, and am more than happy.

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^^^ even the ReWire is working (<>Reason10)
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with correct tempo/transport/loop point synching and RackPlugin can be added to individual clips too(even to MIDI events too as MIDI generator for ex.), so +1 to Reaper (has Push support too, y2 "DrivenByMoss 4 Reaper - Clips, Scenes and Sequencers!" )

ps. always on top can be solved with https://efotinis.neocities.org/deskpins/ as on the image
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat

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MTorn wrote: Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:01 pm Not buying the software isn't likely going to have any effect. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't notice!
That obviously totally depends on how many vote with their wallet this way - it is the same as with every other kind of poll.

In the case of Reason it seems many voted the same way as I did (I sticked with Reason 11) as they keep finding occassions to promote their "one month a dollar"-subscriptions offers.
(Today it is "To celebrate the launch of the BV-X Multimode Vocoder, we're giving you 3 months of Reason+ for just €3." - what was it a forthnight ago?)

I think whoever made use of all these offers must be good for the next two years or so.

If that doesn't reek of desperation then what does.

They f**ked up - big time (by leaving their core customers out in the cold - seriously: who does that? Certainly nobody successful) - and this thread may serve as as good a place as any to remind them of it.

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