Prices set to increase ?

[FapFilter]

you won't add cpu cycles. these have GPUs too, just not as fast as discrete, very power hungry PCIe cards.
in fact, if it is well designed, onboard graphics can actually be more resource friendly than going over the PCIe bus, as long as the onboard GPU is fast enough for the task, which it easily should be for office or DAW work.
unless GPUs indeed are finally taking off for audio computations too, of course

[masterhiggins]

And as CHK said, PC components are outrageously high, at least GPU's as far as I can see. That's all thanks to cryptomining.

As an aside, I've been told by someone who understand these things (...) that something big is happening in June; one of the big cryptos is changing the way it's validated or something (don't ask me...) and it'll effectively kill off home mining (and pointless mining for bitcoin nowadays unless you have some kind of warehouse setup).

He reckons this will lead to people dumping 3060s etc on ebay for peanuts with new prices probably tumbling too. He's convinced enough to be holding off upgrading his gaming rig till July...

Maybe hyperbole, wouldn't know.

He’s probably talking about Ethereum. It’s proof of work validation right now (like Bitcoin) and it’s slated to switch to proof of stake similar to Cardano with 2.0. But there doubts as to whether it’ll make the target date of June. There are other crypto tokens that will remain on GPU mining, like Monero and Ethereum Classic, so there’ll be demand for miners for the foreseeable future. Been looking into mining monero myself. As of right now I’m only a stake pool delegator for Cardano, and the income is pretty steady, but you can earn a lot more as a miner for ETH/XMR/ETC.

[GaryG]

Ethereum ... proof of stake

those words sound familiar so guess that's what he was talking about.

Thanks, I'll mention your comment to him to make it sound like I understand any of this.

[_leras]

There's got to be a reason why so much software is constantly on sale at deep discounts: it makes big bucks.

Will be interesting to see if other developers follow suit and what the overall impact will be.

I think there a couple of factors, but the main one is that like music and movies, there's a big spike of initial sales which then drops off pretty quickly.

You can either then take lower sales, and hope to prop them up with additional advertising of new features or new soundsets that help demonstrate it, or, you can discount heavily to try to get more sales quickly.

[mixyguy2]

So can we expect a price hike now for all packs, instruments, effects etc because the cost of energy is so high, electric costs etc.

I have so far seen marginal hikes at most across the board, except for gas, here in the states.

[LeVzi]

So can we expect a price hike now for all packs, instruments, effects etc because the cost of energy is so high, electric costs etc.

I have so far seen marginal hikes at most across the board, except for gas, here in the states.

You have a good supply of gas and oil of your own tbh, here in Europe they've allowed too much reliance on Russia for gas oil and diesel. So our fuel costs will spiral.

So far only vengeance AFAIK have announced price increases definitely happening.

[Synth Master Jedi]

No, I do not expect any price hikes on digital goods because of stuff happening in the real world. I don't think that would fly.

Last time I was at my local supermarket, I paid about $6 for a dozen eggs. If I wanted eggs on that day, that's what they cost. I didn't have much other choice, and I did want eggs, so I bought them. There are various reasons why the price of eggs has drastically spiked, such as avian flu, inflation, Covid and other crap happening in the world.

When it comes to plugins, I'll continue to buy them as I have always bought them, for a very reasonable price and usually on some sort of sale.

Plugin prices have been on a downward trajectory for many, many years now, and that is a trend that nobody will be able to reverse I think.

[noiseboyuk]

No, I do not expect any price hikes on digital goods because of stuff happening in the real world. I don't think that would fly.

Last time I was at my local supermarket, I paid about $6 for a dozen eggs. If I wanted eggs on that day, that's what they cost. I didn't have much other choice, and I did want eggs, so I bought them. There are various reasons why the price of eggs has drastically spiked, such as avian flu, inflation, Covid and other crap happening in the world.

When it comes to plugins, I'll continue to buy them as I have always bought them, for a very reasonable price and usually on some sort of sale.

Plugin prices have been on a downward trajectory for many, many years now, and that is a trend that nobody will be able to reverse I think.

I think that's true.

Most of the market is hobbyist. Nothing is eggs, nothing is fuel, nothing is essential. For pro users, sometimes there's eggs - but even there it's a rare product that is truly unique and can give something significantly different. So many pro facilities are running software that's a decade old because they have systems that work.

In those conditions, hiking prices is a very risky strategy, because you will be aggressively undercut. Right now there's crazy deals like Black Friday from some developers. You have to be very sure of your own market and clients that they will continue to support you if you go in the opposite direction with pricing. As I think I mentioned before, some of the highest end stuff might be able to get away with it, but that's all.

[Synth Master Jedi]

No, I do not expect any price hikes on digital goods because of stuff happening in the real world. I don't think that would fly.

Last time I was at my local supermarket, I paid about $6 for a dozen eggs. If I wanted eggs on that day, that's what they cost. I didn't have much other choice, and I did want eggs, so I bought them. There are various reasons why the price of eggs has drastically spiked, such as avian flu, inflation, Covid and other crap happening in the world.

When it comes to plugins, I'll continue to buy them as I have always bought them, for a very reasonable price and usually on some sort of sale.

Plugin prices have been on a downward trajectory for many, many years now, and that is a trend that nobody will be able to reverse I think.

I think that's true.

Most of the market is hobbyist. Nothing is eggs, nothing is fuel, nothing is essential. For pro users, sometimes there's eggs - but even there it's a rare product that is truly unique and can give something significantly different. So many pro facilities are running software that's a decade old because they have systems that work.

In those conditions, hiking prices is a very risky strategy, because you will be aggressively undercut. Right now there's crazy deals like Black Friday from some developers. You have to be very sure of your own market and clients that they will continue to support you if you go in the opposite direction with pricing. As I think I mentioned before, some of the highest end stuff might be able to get away with it, but that's all.

I agree that there might be a few exceptions, where there is a certain niche company that caters mostly or only to pro users, but in the big scheme of things, the numbers of pro users aren't that large worldwide I think.

It is the millions of hobbyists and amateurs and prosumers who buy the bulk of plugins, and the way for certain large companies to make money seems to be to sell in bulk, like Waves or PA, with their 30 dollar plugins.

And yes, plugins are neat, but they are hardly a necessity or an essential item. We'd all be fine if we don't buy synth #73 to add to our collection or if we don't buy EQ #89 to add to our collection.

[dionenoid]

like Waves or PA, with their 30 dollar plugins.

Obviously you didn't look at the recent sales prices.

[noiseboyuk]

like Waves or PA, with their 30 dollar plugins.

Obviously you didn't look at the recent sales prices.

True - if you buy 2 for thirty bucks each you'll get another one for free at Waves.

[ghettosynth]

like Waves or PA, with their 30 dollar plugins.

Obviously you didn't look at the recent sales prices.

True - if you buy 2 for thirty bucks each you'll get another one for free at Waves.

Waves is fourth and inches from furniture store style ads. Not gonna lie, I'd pay more attention if they went that route. Mostly for the LOLs, but they'd have my attention.

[noiseboyuk]

Waves is fourth and inches from furniture store style ads. Not gonna lie, I'd pay more attention if they went that route. Mostly for the LOLs, but they'd have my attention.

But the truth is - their plugins are good. Some better than others, true enough. But they are 3 for 60 bucks.

(Not to start a Waves discussion)

[vurt]

No, I do not expect any price hikes on digital goods because of stuff happening in the real world. I don't think that would fly.

but plug in devs need to pay staff more to buy eggs.

yes, we can do without plugins, they are luxury items, totally unnecessary.
yet people seem to expect them for peanuts.
bit weird really.

[Synth Master Jedi]

Obviously you didn't look at the recent sales prices.

That is true, I actually haven't bought a Waves or PA plugin in a month or two, that's almost a record for me. I own pretty much everything that I want from both of them.

But, yes, there is always some sort of sale taking place, almost 24-7-365. That's what customers have come to expect now, because that's what the companies have been doing for a good while now.