KVR Audio

flampton · Post by **flampton** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:12 pm

I’m looking for a effect in which I can simulate the transition from air to water and back. Basically the sound takes a plunge. Since this is both filtering and time altering I’m not sure it can be done with just a plug-in. Also got me thinking whether anyone has found a website on the exact filtering and time change for other mediums as well e.g helium

btfnk · Post by **btfnk** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:37 pm

Are you looking for realistic or exaggerated movie-ish type fx? For the later I would say just use basic filtering and layer in some foley sound effect one shots around the transitions. It should sound pretty convincing. For this kind of thing I also like to use binaural panning on things to really push the sense of immersion over the top.

j wazza · Post by **j wazza** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:57 pm

you could try this https://www.adsrsounds.com/product/soft ... fx-plugin/

also you could try using convolution with a water sound as an impulse response, you can use any water sample, but also try googling underwater impulse response, i found this
https://www.reddit.com/r/ableton/commen ... different/

Dirtgrain · Post by **Dirtgrain** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:52 pm

I wonder about the plunge sound when diving into water. As for the water, Tritik Krush Pro (not sure about free version) has a nice bubbly water preset or two, but you can probably get that with other plugins (a stepped LFO on a filter cutoff and maybe some distortions/saturations/bitcrush/wavefold/whatever).

What does coming out of water sound like? I don't recall it that well. Maybe clips from movies scenes would help. I bet the Abyss has such sounds--or Jaws.

fairlyclose · Post by **fairlyclose** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:53 pm

https://www.nde-ed.org/Physics/Sound/sp ... ials.xhtml

https://www.tutorialspoint.com/physics_ ... _media.htm

j wazza · Post by **j wazza** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:56 pm

if its for like a film where someone goes into the water, youre probably best off just trying to find a sample of someone taking a microphone under the water

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:02 pm

I recommend a kind of convolution.
Let a buddy pee into your swimming pool and capture the sound twice, one dry on land and one wet with aqua mics. Load both wavs into a suitable convolve plugin and morph between them. Works best especially for your buddy with sufficient beer supply.

dmbaer · Post by **dmbaer** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:09 pm

I don't know how literal a sound effect you're after (do you need to hear a splash upon entry to water, for example?). However, by accident I discovered that MeldaProduction's MPolySaturator can sound rather "aquatic" when used with high Depth settings. This is probably a side effect of intensive FFT/IFFT processing. But for whatever reason, to my ears at least it can sound quite wet.

wakax · Post by **wakax** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 8:36 pm

in the end - its not about physics but more about imagination:)
you should try something spectral - this for example sounds very "sound in water" to me.
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/r ... how/11751/

I would timestretch it down, lowpass sound and add some spectral wobbly-wobbly with ^ Reaktor.
I would also try granular fx to try to evoke the transition.

flampton · Post by **flampton** » Sun May 01, 2022 12:07 am

Thanks for all the suggestions!

CinningBao · Post by **CinningBao** » Sun May 01, 2022 3:54 pm

If you're on Windows with a 32-bit host you could try the old xoxos waterverb too

https://plugins4free.com/plugin/1245/

CrystalWizard · Post by **CrystalWizard** » Sun May 01, 2022 7:13 pm

fairlyclose wrote: Sat Apr 30, 2022 7:53 pm https://www.nde-ed.org/Physics/Sound/sp ... ials.xhtml

https://www.tutorialspoint.com/physics_ ... _media.htm

MogwaiBoy · Post by **MogwaiBoy** » Mon May 02, 2022 2:17 am

Surely convolution would be your best best for underwater. That 'Underwater' plugin above is just a Noah 40 trick in a plugin... basically samplerate reduction to totally kill high frequencies. In other words it's a lofi filter plugin, not underwater simulation.

For air:
https://www.tokyodawn.net/proximity/

Also:
https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/ ... -/6557-Air
But I don't know about this one. I don't think it automatically factors in a volume drop at farther distances, which seems like a dumb thing not to include - and (most) things at a distance should lose low end as well as top end.

For air/distance, you can get most of the way there with a good parametric EQ and some filter bands - add some highly tweaked reverb or multi-tap delay (reflections) to enhance.

Realistic underwater sound would be much trickier I think. I've never tried but I'd look at convolution first. It also depends on what kind of underwater sound.. for example a GoPro mic underwater, ie for diving, can have a very unnatural, extremely filtered sound (almost like a small radio effect), but if you heard with your own ears the same sounds underwater, it'd sound very different.

You know in those diving shows on National Geographic where even the bubbles the diver blows sound like really trebly crackling, not "bloop" bubbley sound. OK I'm rambling

Simulate sound transitions through various mediums (air to water)