Massive X 1.6.1 update (September 2025)!

[aMUSEd]

I really hope so and that this isn't it because to me it seems more like a conscious decision to only work on improving the browsing experience for NI created content, I can't see why they couldn't have made tagging available to users as well as factory sound designers (who obviously do have access to this).

Timeframes and milestones... Again, incremental development at play.

Sound designers for NI soundbanks also use KK or Maschine to tag things. There are no hidden modes to do this directly in MX.

Sure but there should be no hidden modes in KK or Machine either, NI need to make creation of banks open to users.

[CrystalWizard]

Everything you see is incremental. Development on the browser is ongoing.

yes it is. in a few years it might actually become a user friendly powerhouse. Til then we get an unfinished mess. I do realize that since the vulture capitalists consumed NI, it's much more important to get it out the door and get the profits rolling in then it is to craft a well thought out, thoroughly optimized synth. Opposite of NI circa 2007. Same as any company taken over by vulture capitalists.

[LoveEnigma18]

As soon as you adjust the control in any direction, it goes to max or min in that direction you're moving. It's pretty much impossible to make any actual adjustments. This was the case for some plugins, I guess that use a certain UI framework, I dunno. Like the classic reverbs had this issue for a while, and then they added touch screen mode in settings, which made the controls respond normally to touch. I get the sense their developers for different products don't talk to each other at all, or use the same tools at all.

All of the recent NI releases use the Qt graphical framework (starting with Mod Pack onward). Touchscreen mode is of course possible, but it's mostly a matter of prioritization.

Any idea we will ever see resizable GUIs for older plugins like Massive, FM8, or Reaktor based synths? I highly doubt so, but thought to ask if you know and can share something. At the least, I want it to happen for Super 8.

[digitalboytn]

The moon was rising high on Plugin Mountain
And The Future Of Sound was written in the skies
But then the dream was broken by the vultures
Who trashed the code and gobbled up the pie

[noiseboyuk]

Well it's great to have some kind of tag browser, basic and clumsy and closed though it is. 2 different tabs for the two fields... really?

But it hits me anew every time. Massive X is - by a long shot - the synth I simply cannot understand the fuss over it. Everything still sounds cold and vaguely unpleasant. I'm definitely an analog guy, but Avenger and Pigments to name but two... I don't get that feeling with either of them. (But I do get a similar feeling with Falcon).

I have 1,600 Massive X presets now, but I think I can count on the fingers of one hand the patches I quite like.

[zzz00m]

But it hits me anew every time. Massive X is - by a long shot - the synth I simply cannot understand the fuss over it. Everything still sounds cold and vaguely unpleasant. I'm definitely an analog guy, but Avenger and Pigments to name but two... I don't get that feeling with either of them. (But I do get a similar feeling with Falcon).

I have 1,600 Massive X presets now, but I think I can count on the fingers of one hand the patches I quite like.

I have nearly as many Massive X presets, so yesterday I decided to choose one category and go though it marking my favorites.

But what struck me was the number of presets that I had to skip over, that seemed harsh and not musically useful. There were plenty of keepers, but definitely not the majority of them. Something for everybody, perhaps?

[DJ Warmonger]

Everything you see is incremental. Development on the browser is ongoing.

yes it is. in a few years it might actually become a user friendly powerhouse. Til then we get an unfinished mess.

Haters gonna hate. I loved Massive X from the first sight and already released a few tracks with it

[digitalboytn]

I have nearly as many Massive X presets, so yesterday I decided to choose one category and go though it marking my favorites.

But what struck me was the number of presets that I had to skip over, that seemed harsh and not musically useful. There were plenty of keepers, but definitely not the majority of them. Something for everybody, perhaps?

It's called stuffing

[pdxindy]

Unfortunately it is not quite the highly anticipated update that many of us wanted The browser is only really useful for NI 'in-house' content.

How so?

[pdxindy]

In a way yes, but it seems to indicate that NI are only really bothered about making sure people can find NI created content more easily, not organise and tag their own patches, and not enable sound designers to create and share banks that won't get lost in the mess that the user section quickly becomes once you have more than a hundred or so patches.

Are you saying the browser improvements are not applicable to user presets? So user presets are still one folder and that is it?

[aMUSEd]

In a way yes, but it seems to indicate that NI are only really bothered about making sure people can find NI created content more easily, not organise and tag their own patches, and not enable sound designers to create and share banks that won't get lost in the mess that the user section quickly becomes once you have more than a hundred or so patches.

Are you saying the browser improvements are not applicable to user presets? So user presets are still one folder and that is it?

Yep - if you want to tag user presets you can still do that in Komplete Kontrol but, absurdly, not in Massive X, and there is no way to organise collections of patches into banks.

[_leras]

Timeframes and milestones... Again, incremental development at play.

Sound designers for NI soundbanks also use KK or Maschine to tag things. There are no hidden modes to do this directly in MX.

You have been saying this is coming! (for quite some time).

Great news that a) it's here, and b) they've chosen to do incremental updates and show some of their efforts.

Yay!!

[pixel85]

I really like this new VFX added in this version GUI is way better when it's rapidly stuttering with glitches when you hover mouse around the. Approved by all people with epilepsy

[pixel85]

Bass Enhancer is a nice addition, but after a very fast check, I feel like Gain and Level are doing exactly the same thing?
LP4 SVF is nice

[pdxindy]

Are you saying the browser improvements are not applicable to user presets? So user presets are still one folder and that is it?

Yep - if you want to tag user presets you can still do that in Komplete Kontrol but, absurdly, not in Massive X, and there is no way to organise collections of patches into banks.

So 2 years to go from 1.3 -> 1.4 and for those only using Massive X and making their own presets, there is no browser improvement and that is the main thing in the update. Meanwhile, Vital (a free synth) has all the stuff MX is missing and 1.5 adds undo/redo, speed improvements and is M1 Native.

Glad I uninstalled MX as I'll die of old age before MX ever gets the basics implemented.

Thx for the info!