A sound that probably is not a saw wave

[hinson]

Last week I bought the Scooter Wicked album. In the song The First Time, I was intrigued by the sound that is probably not a saw wave.
Maybe it is a sample. It is in the background and in addition muffled by a low-pass filter with a fairly large reverb effect.

Start from 01:49 in the vocal background. Best heard at the end of a song from 05:15.

[j wazza]

it could be a saw wave tbf it sounds a bit supersawish, but could be another waveform like a supersquare or something, whatever it is it has unison and detune, short attack and decay, probably a filter envelope, its playing chords

[hinson]

Do you know how exactly to make this sound in some synthesizer if it's not a sample?
I thought it might be a sample of pizzicatto that was famous at the time and I started experimenting but my experiment failed.

[j wazza]

Do you know how exactly to make this sound in some synthesizer if it's not a sample?
I thought it might be a sample of pizzicatto that was famous at the time and I started experimenting but my experiment failed.

did you try what i said? think its pretty much just that, short filter envelope etc work on getting the chords first then the sound

[hinson]

In fact, I didn't try to create it in a synthesizer, but I experimented in sampler. I was looking for strange samples that are already short and you do not need to use the envelope but the filters I used, mainly lowpass. I liked the pizzicato sample the best and I downloaded several kinds.

I think I already know what it is. It looks like it's some kind of pluck. I checked the presets of some synths today, mainly from FL Studio, but the closest seems to be a presets which have the word ''pikes'' in their name for example from reFX Nexus ''PL Waterhouse Pikes''.
So if I want to get something like that, I probably have to create a pluck first.

It is not exactly the same, but it is quite close
https://sndup.net/f3md/

[j wazza]

In fact, I didn't try to create it in a synthesizer, but I experimented in sampler. I was looking for strange samples that are already short and you do not need to use the envelope but the filters I used, mainly lowpass. I liked the pizzicato sample the best and I downloaded several kinds.

I think I already know what it is. It looks like it's some kind of pluck. I checked the presets of some synths today, mainly from FL Studio, but the closest seems to be a presets which have the word ''pikes'' in their name for example from reFX Nexus ''PL Waterhouse Pikes''.
So if I want to get something like that, I probably have to create a pluck first.

It is not exactly the same, but it is quite close
https://sndup.net/f3md/

you make a synth pluck by using an envelope with a quick attack and decay to modulate something that brings in higher harmonics at the start of the sound to give it that plucky impact, you can modulate a filter, or a wavetable position, distortion amount or fm amount, anything to bring in higher harmonics with the short envelope, you could do this with a filter with any sound going in, so it could be a sustained string sample that you turn into a pluck, im sure the one in that song isnt just a normal sample, it at least has the filter envelope and unison detuning even if those are done with a sample

[CHOOS]

The pluck is simple but you need the right "chords"
I have the midi & preset attached for Vital and a picture of the eq
those two tones needed a little extra boost

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[hinson]

Thanks. I didn't expect it to be a more complex chord. I thought it was even a harmonic interval consisting of two sounds.

[Architeuthis]

I hear a choir or vocal that is trance-gated, and the trance gate doesn't fully close so you hear the quiet drone of it between every pop.

Try starting with a choir sample library/instrument/synthesized choir.

[gungunum]

I don't know what it is, but surely it sounds good.