Arturia V Collection 9 - Official Thread

[zerocrossing]

Did anyone else notice when you updated everything in Software center that they changed the name of the OB-Xa to OP-Xa?

Oberheim is again a company that’s making product, so there was probably either legal reasons or to be polite.

[PsychicVST]

This update was worth it for me ($149) just for Augmented Voices. I’m loving it. I’m a big fan of vocal synth stuff: like outlook exhale, plogue Chipspeech, mutable instruments euro stuff, and sample libraries like the Soundiron’s Voices of Wind and miscellaneous choir libraries. It’s as if Arturia was reading my mind.

[smellypants]

Is it not safe to say that Arturia are the best in the business at the vintage synth modeling game now.

On par with the other elites (U-He, Synapse, Tal, Softube) for authenticity but above them because of the sheer volume of top tier emulations they offer. None of the other companies can compete with that right now.

And their efficiency is ridiculous as well... What is that 4 brand new emulations built from scratch in about a year and a half! It takes longer for other companies to make one emulation! Of course Arturia is a bigger company which allows them to be able to do this but damn.

All this must make them rank number one no?

Yay or nay, what are peoples thoughts

Also they'll probably redo all the synths up to version 5 right, after that is when they made the turn in their modeling abilities...

[trusampler]

Pretty impressed with the Piano update as well after calibrating my Roland Fantom, I wasn't expecting these Pianos to sound and play so Cohesive in a mix.

[zerocrossing]

Comparing the CS-80 V4 to a real CS-80 (via careful observation of online videos)

Is that really a meaningful comparison, though? Seems pretty murky to me, frankly. I'd rather hear from someone who actually has a CS-80, but, well.....yeah. Oh well.

See, that’s where I disagree, because it’s sort of irrelevant. I mean, I’d love to hear an a/b comparison, but the odds of me getting a CS-80 any time soon are pretty much zero, unless Behringer makes one, and even then I’d say that there was no way of knowing if they got it right. At some point, you have to say, “do I like this,” because leaning on comparisons can be maddening.

One more thing I’ll add is that I think Arturia takes liberties when they decide what parameter ranges to include. I think the entire range is represented, but my guess is they extend it for fun. I don’t mind that at all, but it does lead to the purists yelling, “it’s nothing like…” Again, this is just a theory, as I’ve never personally owned any synth in the V Collection except for a Juno 106, and that was in the early 80s, so there’s no way I’d recall what the parameter ranges were. Oh wait, I forgot about the SQ-80. I did own one of those a few years back… again, still too much time.

[zerocrossing]

I have a question. I have V Collection 8, Pigments and SQ-80 V. My upgrade price is $149. I assumed it was because of SQ-80, but people are saying they own 8 and Pigments and got that deal? Does that mean I will end up with two licenses of SQ-80? Or that the deal kind of sucks a bit?

[teilo]

I think for an instrument like the CS-80, much of the performance character comes from the tactile experience of playing the polyphonic aftertouch and the ribbon controller. A VST may be able to nail the sound (and I have no doubt V4 does), but you need a CS-80 to get a CS-80 performance. Just as much of the experience of playing a piano comes from the weighted keys, double escapement mechanism, pedal action, and the hammers physically striking the strings.

I entirely agree. So it looks like I'm going to have to buy a Hydrasynth.

Seriously. Why can't someone make an awesome polyphonic aftertouch keyboard with a ribbon? The only way to get one is to buy a synth.

[SCprogfan]

i wonder how the Arturia vs Korg MS-20 vst is?

The Arturia version was made in cooperation with Korg, so it should be pretty good.

[poonna]

Seriously. Why can't someone make an awesome polyphonic aftertouch keyboard with a ribbon? The only way to get one is to buy a synth.

If my memory serves me well, Behringer is planning on building one right now. I think I saw them teasing a mock-up one a while back.

[rezoneight]

I have a question. I have V Collection 8, Pigments and SQ-80 V. My upgrade price is $149. I assumed it was because of SQ-80, but people are saying they own 8 and Pigments and got that deal? Does that mean I will end up with two licenses of SQ-80? Or that the deal kind of sucks a bit?

I own 8 and Pigments and its $199. Seems to me they're not basing the pricing on anything but prior version of V Collection and stuff they added (like OB or SQ). I own other stuff as well (like the FX collection). Still $199.

But yes you'd have two licenses. I owned the OB prior to 8 coming out and had two licenses of it. Sold the "standalone" one.

[rezoneight]

Comparing the CS-80 V4 to a real CS-80 (via careful observation of online videos)

Is that really a meaningful comparison, though? Seems pretty murky to me, frankly. I'd rather hear from someone who actually has a CS-80, but, well.....yeah. Oh well.

See, that’s where I disagree, because it’s sort of irrelevant. I mean, I’d love to hear an a/b comparison, but the odds of me getting a CS-80 any time soon are pretty much zero, unless Behringer makes one, and even then I’d say that there was no way of knowing if they got it right. At some point, you have to say, “do I like this,” because leaning on comparisons can be maddening.

One more thing I’ll add is that I think Arturia takes liberties when they decide what parameter ranges to include. I think the entire range is represented, but my guess is they extend it for fun. I don’t mind that at all, but it does lead to the purists yelling, “it’s nothing like…” Again, this is just a theory, as I’ve never personally owned any synth in the V Collection except for a Juno 106, and that was in the early 80s, so there’s no way I’d recall what the parameter ranges were. Oh wait, I forgot about the SQ-80. I did own one of those a few years back… again, still too much time.

This is spot-on Zerocrossing. This is exactly the problem I have with people who used to own Synth X then compare it to some emulation and say "its nothing alike! I owned Synth X hardware!". Unless you've got the hardware RIGHT NOW opinions are mostly useless. I just bought a real SH-2 to compare to the Roland plug-out. Expensive experiment.

[BONES]

Nothing I can see here that's worth $200. Even at $99, I doubt I'd upgrade.

[DrGonzo]

I just bought a real SH-2 to compare to the Roland plug-out. Expensive experiment.

All good experiments comes with a cost, and this sounds like a fun comparison. Slightly OT, but how do they compare with your ears? I actually like the sound of the Roland plugouts.

[rezoneight]

I just bought a real SH-2 to compare to the Roland plug-out. Expensive experiment.

All good experiments comes with a cost, and this sounds like a fun comparison. Slightly OT, but how do they compare with your ears? I actually like the sound of the Roland plugouts.

I actually haven't been able to get to the experiment yet due to life Just got the SH-2 less than a month ago though. Planning on getting to it next week. That said I love how the SH-2 plug-out sounds and from the little bit of time I've been able to spend with the real thing I heard about what I expected.

Also got my Pro One serviced finally go might do the same experiment with it vs Repro. Something to keep me busy over the summer.

[DrGonzo]

Yeah doing proper tests take time - but do post after you are starting to get a feel of the differences. The SH2 is a synth that is full of serious character.