Arturia V Collection 9 - Official Thread

[fmr]

Anyone else getting crashes on Windows 10 with the synths in stand alone mode? I didn't have the time to test inside the daw.

Yes. Installed the latest V8 and Pigments last night. Both Pigments and Analog Lab crashed to desktop after playing with them for a few minutes.

I am in Windows 10, and usually test them in standalone mode. I rarely experience a crash, even while in earler betas. What kind of crash, and what are the steps to reproduce it? Are you sure you have a machine powerful enough, and with enough RAM to run them? Pigments, for example, can be VERY demanding.

[andrew71]

Anyone else getting crashes on Windows 10 with the synths in stand alone mode? I didn't have the time to test inside the daw.

Yes. Installed the latest V8 and Pigments last night. Both Pigments and Analog Lab crashed to desktop after playing with them for a few minutes.

I experienced this yesterday, but it was whilst other Arturia products were downloading and installing at the same time. Perhaps their installers, which by default run in silent mode, were closing off the other Arturia applications that you were running at the same time? I've opened up a couple of standalone synths subsequently and they appear to be stable.

[ctrlfreakna]

Anyone else getting crashes on Windows 10 with the synths in stand alone mode? I didn't have the time to test inside the daw.

No crashes here! Can you be more specific so we can try to reproduce your crash?

Unfortunately, there isn't much more I can say. The programs just close without showing an error. So far I didn't see any pattern. It's a relatively new install of Windows 10, and that's why I was asking here just to check if it's something others are experiencing. If not, it could just be something wrong with my laptop.

[ctrlfreakna]

Anyone else getting crashes on Windows 10 with the synths in stand alone mode? I didn't have the time to test inside the daw.

Yes. Installed the latest V8 and Pigments last night. Both Pigments and Analog Lab crashed to desktop after playing with them for a few minutes.

I experienced this yesterday, but it was whilst other Arturia products were downloading and installing at the same time. Perhaps their installers, which by default run in silent mode, were closing off the other Arturia applications that you were running at the same time? I've opened up a couple of standalone synths subsequently and they appear to be stable.

So funny how I had the exact same thought at first, because it was installing the entire collection. Nevertheless, I noticed a crash or two also after installation and after a restart.

[rollasoc]

Yes. Installed the latest V8 and Pigments last night. Both Pigments and Analog Lab crashed to desktop after playing with them for a few minutes.

I am in Windows 10, and usually test them in standalone mode. I rarely experience a crash, even while in earler betas. What kind of crash, and what are the steps to reproduce it? Are you sure you have a machine powerful enough, and with enough RAM to run them? Pigments, for example, can be VERY demanding.

I built my PC about 3 weeks ago.
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 8-core processor
32GB Ram
Focusrite Scarlett 8i6 (gen 3)
NI S49 Mk1 keyboard

I never had crashes with the old standalones on my 11 year old music PC previously (early i7, 24GB ram)

There were no error messages. Both just crashed to desktop whilst I was playing. So I was looking at the keyboard, not the screen. The sound stopped. I looked at the screen and the apps were no longer running.

Anyone know, if there are logs kept for the standalones (and where)?

I will do further testing later.

[rollasoc]

Yes. Installed the latest V8 and Pigments last night. Both Pigments and Analog Lab crashed to desktop after playing with them for a few minutes.

I am in Windows 10, and usually test them in standalone mode. I rarely experience a crash, even while in earler betas. What kind of crash, and what are the steps to reproduce it? Are you sure you have a machine powerful enough, and with enough RAM to run them? Pigments, for example, can be VERY demanding.

I built my PC about 3 weeks ago.
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 8-core processor
32GB Ram
Focusrite Scarlett 8i6 (gen 3)
NI S49 Mk1 keyboard

I never had crashes with the old standalones on my 11 year old music PC previously (early i7, 24GB ram)

There were no error messages. Both just crashed to desktop whilst I was playing. So I was looking at the keyboard, not the screen. The sound stopped. I looked at the screen and the apps were no longer running.

Anyone know, if there are logs kept for the standalones (and where)?

I will do further testing later. (I'm a software developer, I know the importance of proper fault reports)

[EnGee]

I did run CS-80 v4 and it was ok. I'll test Pigments and AnalogLab and see. Anyway, I have a rather good PC (5800X, RTX 3070, 32 GB), so it might be related to performance. Otherwise, we need to report it.

[LoveEnigma18]

Regarding new presets in V Collection 9, are all the new presets only coming from the new 14 banks? Or it means these are additional banks for all the new instruments and are separate from their factory presets?

And does anyone know if the previous preset banks Synthopedia (800 presets) and Patchworks (700 presets) are also included in V Collection 9? I assume it would only be the case if you had V Collection 7 (Synthopedia), then upgraded to 8 (Patchworks) and then upgraded to 9 (14 new banks). Perhaps someone who did not have VC7/8 earlier and now has VC9 could please check in their owned preset banks (Analog Lab->Store) and let me know?

[Edouard Arturia]

Hey.
The 14 banks are extra banks that come as supplement to the factory libraries.
Each with its own genre.
Cheers

[noiseboyuk]

I noticed that - most (but not all) of the renamed OP-Xa were showing up twice in Analog Lab V:



Clicking the 1st patch actually loaded the 2nd. Figuring that this was all because of the renaming thing, I installed the latest version of OP-Xa, and voila - the duplicates vanished.

Weirdly, afterwards clicking the up or down arrows for any of the fields in ALV just resulted in a scrambled mess. I restarted and now it's behaving normally. Just thought I'd mention it in case anyone else has anything similar.

[LoveEnigma18]

Hey.
The 14 banks are extra banks that come as supplement to the factory libraries.
Each with its own genre.
Cheers

Good to know. Thank you, Edouard.

Sorry, but could you please check a previous post of mine where I have quoted you for some clarification regarding Analog Lab V?

[OllieBoi]

I don't know about a Theremin. But an MKS-70 and MKS-80 (with each plugin designed after their respective programmers) would have been great. Heck, even an MKS-50 would have been better than the Augmented synths.

Would it though?

I guess a lot of folks would like V Collection 34 to have 100 near-perfect virtual vintage synthesizers in 2046. I dunno though, I think it's a bit more interesting to broaden things out.

I get the retort - "well I'm not interested in Shiny New Product so why should I pay for it"? V Collection is going like Komplete in that way, and I'm pretty happy with that. It's an amazing value bundle that hardly anyone is going to use every element of.

God help us if Komplete is the model (unavoidable pun) for Arturia’s V Collection going forward. I own the latest and greatest version of Komplete Ultimate 13 and it is a bloated, sub-standard piece of crap for the most part. NI can’t even be arsed to create new synth plugins anymore with the exception of Massive X and Super 8 (which started life as a Reaktor ensemble). Half of NI’s synths are these half-baked, phoned in Kontakt instruments and the other half are annoyingly digital sounding Reaktor ensembles (with the exception of Monark and Super 8 which is nicely done for what it is).

Reaktor Blocks is not taking the world by storm and thus Reaktor has lost any relevance that it once had. The user generated library of ensembles in particular is uniformly awful.

And then there is the fact that almost all of NI’s plugins are still incompatible with Apple M1 processors, are VST2 only and have GUIs that can’t be resized.

Kontakt (with its wide support for third party libraries) is about the only thing keeping Komplete afloat. And even Kontakt needs a total redesign to make it easier to use and to remain competitive with UVI’s Falcon.

Arturia would do well to stay in their lane and focus on what they are good at (or rather what they are getting better at).

[baubry@arturia]

Yes. Installed the latest V8 and Pigments last night. Both Pigments and Analog Lab crashed to desktop after playing with them for a few minutes.

I am in Windows 10, and usually test them in standalone mode. I rarely experience a crash, even while in earler betas. What kind of crash, and what are the steps to reproduce it? Are you sure you have a machine powerful enough, and with enough RAM to run them? Pigments, for example, can be VERY demanding.

I built my PC about 3 weeks ago.
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 8-core processor
32GB Ram
Focusrite Scarlett 8i6 (gen 3)
NI S49 Mk1 keyboard

I never had crashes with the old standalones on my 11 year old music PC previously (early i7, 24GB ram)

There were no error messages. Both just crashed to desktop whilst I was playing. So I was looking at the keyboard, not the screen. The sound stopped. I looked at the screen and the apps were no longer running.

Anyone know, if there are logs kept for the standalones (and where)?

I will do further testing later.

Hello!

I am one of the developer working at Arturia. Sorry that you are experiencing crahes...
Do not hesitate to contact our support team and share with them a crash dump. They usually are located in %localappdata%\CrashDumps on Windows.

[memrise]

I didn't buy the old version two weeks ago, I bought the brand new version while there was no sight of V9 on the horizon. If so, I would have waited with my purchase ofc.
So selling something as "the latest and greatest" and then coming from behind the corner two weeks later with "haha... look at this", that's not very cool. It's called tricking customers.

Would that have happened two months ago, or half a year, ofc... that's bad luck. But this is cheating if the company then doesn't offer any grace period at all, not even their usual discounted upgrade price.

You get the upgrade price at $199 instead of $499, right?
How much did you pay for it 2 weeks ago? Less than $300?

Definitely not less, but that doesn't matter in this case. It was under the impression of buying the latest version, when in fact V9 was already in their storage. And we all know regular plugin prices are just inflated make up stories for the shareholders anyways.

So all in all, initiated through this first sale, Arturia got 1000€ from me in the last two weeks. Which is some substantial amount of money. To not offer anything here really, that is what's bothering.

What are you on about? The Native Instruments offer for V8 was $299. The upgrade price from that to V9 is $199.

That would put you at $498.
For new customers V9 is currently $499.

You make it sound like you got robbed

[rezoneight]

The SH2 is a synth that is full of serious character.

It sure is! They're not too hard to find and still reasonably priced too (relatively speaking). I've considered buying one on several occasions, but I'm pretty happy with the plugout.

In Japan sir Not here in the US. It took me forever to find one in good condition and it cost me dearly.