IK "Support": Did you try XYZ steps?"
Syntronik 2 Discussions
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 19793 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
ME: I'd like to report a file issue with Syntronik 2. I have done XYZ steps.
IK "Support": Did you try XYZ steps?"
IK "Support": Did you try XYZ steps?"
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRian
- 763 posts since 23 Dec, 2011
So, in addition to the stuff that Teksonik posted. There are screens to manage effects, the four parts, and a Sequencer/ Arp definition page. Lots of control. Here is a decent article by David Baer -> https://soundbytesmag.net/review-syntro ... ultimedia/ which has screen shots. The other thing worth mentioning. Is.. the samples, this package.. takes a boatload of disc space. A lot!
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- KVRist
- 208 posts since 19 Apr, 2022
After messing around with the free Syntronik 2 CM, I cannot disagree with you. It's definitely more powerful than a lot of things people think of as mainline synths!
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- KVRist
- 208 posts since 19 Apr, 2022
I read somewhere that if you get the group buy at 24 for the price of 1, that's what you get---even if 3000 buy you don't get the additional six without paying in again? Is that true?? Seems like a perverse incentive, making people reluctant to buy early.
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- KVRian
- 763 posts since 23 Dec, 2011
It is not true. You get 24 for the price of 1 (currently). However each time (until the group buy ends), they hit a multiple of 100 more users.. you get another instrument added to your list, that you can choose from. When I first got into the group buy, i think it was hovering at 12 for 1. It's currently at 24 for 1, and needs an additional 2 folks, then it will go up to 25 for 1. Then.. I can choose another instrument. This will go up until the end of the group buy. So.. I've added 13 instruments that were not part of the group buy initially. Sounds more complicated than it is. But whatever you read is wrong. The number of Syntronik 'free' instruments folks in the group buy get - goes up as more folks join.Rahodees wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 1:46 am I read somewhere that if you get the group buy at 24 for the price of 1, that's what you get---even if 3000 buy you don't get the additional six without paying in again? Is that true?? Seems like a perverse incentive, making people reluctant to buy early.
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- KVRer
- 17 posts since 5 Jul, 2008
How does this compare to the Arturia collection ? Or for that matter any other synth collection.
Yes I know of the price difference, though I'd rather pay more for quality than fill my drive up with mostly unusable patches. Judging by what I've heard on UTube so far I'm not all that impressed, though to be fair that is only a small sample of what is there.
I also know there are some excellent free synths out that that are more than capable, and won't eat up my drive. Is this really worth the amount of space it will take up ?
Yes I know of the price difference, though I'd rather pay more for quality than fill my drive up with mostly unusable patches. Judging by what I've heard on UTube so far I'm not all that impressed, though to be fair that is only a small sample of what is there.
I also know there are some excellent free synths out that that are more than capable, and won't eat up my drive. Is this really worth the amount of space it will take up ?
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- KVRAF
- 3735 posts since 17 Sep, 2016
Install the free Syntronik 2 CS edition and judge for yourself. It comes with a starter set of sounds that you can audition. https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/s ... ronik-2-csBurningSG wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 1:15 pm I also know there are some excellent free synths out that that are more than capable, and won't eat up my drive. Is this really worth the amount of space it will take up ?
Your free entry into Syntronik 2 with 100 presets, 2.4 GB of sound content and full app and plug-in functionality ready for expansion.
Windows 10 and too many plugins
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- KVRAF
- 1799 posts since 26 Jul, 2002 from New York
It will jump in. I am not a huge synth head and I am not recording/composing these days. I just play keys live in bunch of cover bands. I use Gig Performer and I have picked up libraries that I am starting to incorporate for live use (horn sections, solo violin, some baritone sax). I have Arturia Analog Labs. But at this price, I will also pick this up. It will probably use less cpu than Arturia Analog Labs and between the two I would hope I am good for any synth part any cover band would throw at me. The hard drive space is an concern. I just bought a 2 TB solid state drive, which I probably would have ended up getting anyway, but I definitely would need for this monster. [Hoping I avoid an download/installment headache. Not looking forward to it]. My $.02.
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- KVRAF
- 9521 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Each downloaded synth sounds .zip file should extract to a sound installer .exe, and a folder containing 4 subfolders. Once your content paths are established, you can manually copy over these folders, or run the sounds installer. If there's no need to install every synth the first day, you can start with your favorite(s). 
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- KVRer
- 3 posts since 2 May, 2022
One bloke's humble opinion: IK Multimedia Syntronik 2 is rather extraordinary!
"Fabulous sounding", "I was far from alone in being blown away by the sounds", "most impressive", "great sound", "authentic-sounding", "sound fantastic", "incredibly faithful", "assured is the earthiness and realism in the sound", "the feel of the originals", "vintage character shimmers through", "Sound quality is superb", "How Does it Sound? Excellent.", "the FX are excellent and comprehensive"... These are quotes taken from media reviews of Syntronik 2.
I agree with the reviews!
If you're looking for a VI (virtual instrument) that produces sounds close to or the same as those of the beloved and beautiful sounding vintage synthesizers, in my opinion Syntronik 2 can't be beat.
As with many other VIs whose aim is to accurately replicate sounds of an original hardware instrument, Syntronik 2 utilizes samples - and that's a good thing!!
Let's consider the important role of samples. Indeed, some of the best and highest valued VIs use samples - pianos from the likes of Garritan, Synthology, and Spectrasonic; orchestras with brass, strings, woodwinds and percussion from VSL, Orchestral Tools, Spitfire Audio, Heavyocity and others; drums and percussion from XLN, Toontrack, Slate Digital, etc.; and the list goes on. These all utilize samples for *faithful recreation of the original sound*. And I think that's a key aspect of Syntronik 2 - faithful recreation of the original sound. As with the products of the companies mentioned herein, Syntronik 2 uses samples to faithfully recreate the sounds of real instruments... that happen to be hardware synthesizers.
Many love the sounds of the vintage hardware synthesizers. There is a wonderful aspect of the sound of hardware analog synthesizers - often referred to with terms such as 'warmth', 'richness', 'fullness', 'earthiness', 'character' - that is apparently difficult to reproduce in software. VI makers have expended considerable time and resources in attempting to recreate those sounds algorithmically. Some - such as Arturia, u-he and others mentioned in these and similar threads, have come remarkably close. Per my understanding, the algorithmic software synthesizer uses one or more algorithmic sound engines (with oscillators, single-cycle waves, wavetables; optional sync, cross-mod, waveshaping, unison, etc.) to produce the 'initial sound'. That initial sound is then routed to the next processing stage - typically a filter, and on down the line (FX, seq/arp, etc.), with various forms of modulation (envelopes, LFOs, etc.) applied at various stages. The primary difference I see in Syntronik 2 is in that first stage - the sound engine, which produces the sound that will be routed to the filter. With an algorithmic synthesizer attempting to emulate analog hardware, the sound routed to the filter is produced algorithmically, with software algorithms doing the best they can to make that sound match as close as possible to the pre-filter sound produced by the actual hardware synth. With Syntronik, the first stage pre-filter sound *was recorded directly from the actual hardware*. In other words, with Syntronik, the sounds routed to the filter are more or less *what algorithmic synthesizers [that attempt to emulate analog hardware synths] are working so hard to match*.
Granted, the algorithmic synthesizers are able to provide more flexibility via options within that first stage. Essentially, with Syntronik, such options (as are available on the original recorded hardware) have been pre-selected per wave set. However, Syntronik 2 has provided a respectable amount of flexibility, with up to 4 separate first stage sound sources, and a large selection of wave sets selectable for each sound source (not to mention subs, drift, and a mod matrix that enables programmatic manipulation of associated parameters).
So, with Syntronik 2, we have a wide variety of raw multi-sampled sounds recorded directly from the original hardware (some single ocscillator; some multi oscillator, octave, sync, FM; and even some full patches for creative re-synthesis) that we can layer, mix, and modulate before routing to a filter and on down the line. Consequently, like some of the best and highest valued VI 'sample players' as mentioned previous, Syntronik is able to sound very close to (if not same as) the real thing!
But the [up to 4, plus two subs] rich, multi-sampled wavesets (the 'samples') are just the beginning! These sources can be tuned, panned and mixed, with selectable analog 'drift' goodness. Then there are 7 selectable filters (including circuit-level models of 4 well-known classics), with all the usual trimmings. There are envelopes, LFOs, voicing options, lots of great effects (71 of them!), arp/sequencer, flexible layering (plus per layer arp/sequencer, effects, midi control filtering, keyboard range, velocity range, and tuning)... things we've come to expect in today's great synthesizers. And, since Syntronik's initial stage involves samples (as opposed to running lots of algorithmic code, particularly when attempting to approximate sounds of analog hardware synthesizers), it can be relatively kind to your CPU. Oh, and on my SSD system, the new disk streaming feature in Syntronik 2 enables almost instant loading of presets.
Though how it goes about making a sound is indeed interesting, more important to me is the end result - how it sounds! You saw (above) the reviewers' opinions. As for me, I’ve used many VI synths over many years. I own and love the aforementioned Arturia products, including the remarkable Pigments 3.51 - amazing products! But in my honest opinion, some of the sounds produced by the Syntronik 2 instruments have an authenticity, warmth, and richness that's just plain hard to beat.
But don't take my (or anyone else's) word for it. If you haven't yet used Syntronik 2, give it a try! It's easy and it's free.
Download and install (via IK Product Manager) the FREE Syntronik 2, which gives you all 33 synths. For each of the 33 synths, you get one or more presets, editable via the Syntronik 2 Edit window (and associated Wave Set browser).
Though in the paid versions all 33 synths include lots of wavesets, in the free version most include only one; hey, what do you expect, it's free! However, after you've installed Syntronik 2, if you want to go even further in your evaluation, go to pocketmags.com and pay $4 for the May 2022 issue of Computer Music magazine, which features a free copy of the Syntronik 2 J-60 synth (sounds of the Roland Juno-60), which includes 19 juicy wavesets and lots of presets! BTW: For synth enthusiasts, I think this issue of Computer Music magazine is worth the 4 bucks even without the free Syntronik 2 J-60 synth, as it also features "60 Years of the Synth - the gear, pioneers and sounds that changed the world" and other related goodies.
If you don't want to install and test the free version, at least go to the Syntronik 2 webpage and listen (on a good set of speakers or headphones) to the audio demos - the overview ones for Syntronik 2 as well as the ones for the individual Syntronik 2 synths. And check out the currently available (for a limited time) amazing Group Buy - up to all 33 (currently 25!) Syntronik 2 synths for the price of one ($49.99, or about $35 if you have IK Multimedia Jam Points). Enjoy!
"Fabulous sounding", "I was far from alone in being blown away by the sounds", "most impressive", "great sound", "authentic-sounding", "sound fantastic", "incredibly faithful", "assured is the earthiness and realism in the sound", "the feel of the originals", "vintage character shimmers through", "Sound quality is superb", "How Does it Sound? Excellent.", "the FX are excellent and comprehensive"... These are quotes taken from media reviews of Syntronik 2.
I agree with the reviews!
If you're looking for a VI (virtual instrument) that produces sounds close to or the same as those of the beloved and beautiful sounding vintage synthesizers, in my opinion Syntronik 2 can't be beat.
As with many other VIs whose aim is to accurately replicate sounds of an original hardware instrument, Syntronik 2 utilizes samples - and that's a good thing!!
Let's consider the important role of samples. Indeed, some of the best and highest valued VIs use samples - pianos from the likes of Garritan, Synthology, and Spectrasonic; orchestras with brass, strings, woodwinds and percussion from VSL, Orchestral Tools, Spitfire Audio, Heavyocity and others; drums and percussion from XLN, Toontrack, Slate Digital, etc.; and the list goes on. These all utilize samples for *faithful recreation of the original sound*. And I think that's a key aspect of Syntronik 2 - faithful recreation of the original sound. As with the products of the companies mentioned herein, Syntronik 2 uses samples to faithfully recreate the sounds of real instruments... that happen to be hardware synthesizers.
Many love the sounds of the vintage hardware synthesizers. There is a wonderful aspect of the sound of hardware analog synthesizers - often referred to with terms such as 'warmth', 'richness', 'fullness', 'earthiness', 'character' - that is apparently difficult to reproduce in software. VI makers have expended considerable time and resources in attempting to recreate those sounds algorithmically. Some - such as Arturia, u-he and others mentioned in these and similar threads, have come remarkably close. Per my understanding, the algorithmic software synthesizer uses one or more algorithmic sound engines (with oscillators, single-cycle waves, wavetables; optional sync, cross-mod, waveshaping, unison, etc.) to produce the 'initial sound'. That initial sound is then routed to the next processing stage - typically a filter, and on down the line (FX, seq/arp, etc.), with various forms of modulation (envelopes, LFOs, etc.) applied at various stages. The primary difference I see in Syntronik 2 is in that first stage - the sound engine, which produces the sound that will be routed to the filter. With an algorithmic synthesizer attempting to emulate analog hardware, the sound routed to the filter is produced algorithmically, with software algorithms doing the best they can to make that sound match as close as possible to the pre-filter sound produced by the actual hardware synth. With Syntronik, the first stage pre-filter sound *was recorded directly from the actual hardware*. In other words, with Syntronik, the sounds routed to the filter are more or less *what algorithmic synthesizers [that attempt to emulate analog hardware synths] are working so hard to match*.
Granted, the algorithmic synthesizers are able to provide more flexibility via options within that first stage. Essentially, with Syntronik, such options (as are available on the original recorded hardware) have been pre-selected per wave set. However, Syntronik 2 has provided a respectable amount of flexibility, with up to 4 separate first stage sound sources, and a large selection of wave sets selectable for each sound source (not to mention subs, drift, and a mod matrix that enables programmatic manipulation of associated parameters).
So, with Syntronik 2, we have a wide variety of raw multi-sampled sounds recorded directly from the original hardware (some single ocscillator; some multi oscillator, octave, sync, FM; and even some full patches for creative re-synthesis) that we can layer, mix, and modulate before routing to a filter and on down the line. Consequently, like some of the best and highest valued VI 'sample players' as mentioned previous, Syntronik is able to sound very close to (if not same as) the real thing!
But the [up to 4, plus two subs] rich, multi-sampled wavesets (the 'samples') are just the beginning! These sources can be tuned, panned and mixed, with selectable analog 'drift' goodness. Then there are 7 selectable filters (including circuit-level models of 4 well-known classics), with all the usual trimmings. There are envelopes, LFOs, voicing options, lots of great effects (71 of them!), arp/sequencer, flexible layering (plus per layer arp/sequencer, effects, midi control filtering, keyboard range, velocity range, and tuning)... things we've come to expect in today's great synthesizers. And, since Syntronik's initial stage involves samples (as opposed to running lots of algorithmic code, particularly when attempting to approximate sounds of analog hardware synthesizers), it can be relatively kind to your CPU. Oh, and on my SSD system, the new disk streaming feature in Syntronik 2 enables almost instant loading of presets.
Though how it goes about making a sound is indeed interesting, more important to me is the end result - how it sounds! You saw (above) the reviewers' opinions. As for me, I’ve used many VI synths over many years. I own and love the aforementioned Arturia products, including the remarkable Pigments 3.51 - amazing products! But in my honest opinion, some of the sounds produced by the Syntronik 2 instruments have an authenticity, warmth, and richness that's just plain hard to beat.
But don't take my (or anyone else's) word for it. If you haven't yet used Syntronik 2, give it a try! It's easy and it's free.
Download and install (via IK Product Manager) the FREE Syntronik 2, which gives you all 33 synths. For each of the 33 synths, you get one or more presets, editable via the Syntronik 2 Edit window (and associated Wave Set browser).
Though in the paid versions all 33 synths include lots of wavesets, in the free version most include only one; hey, what do you expect, it's free! However, after you've installed Syntronik 2, if you want to go even further in your evaluation, go to pocketmags.com and pay $4 for the May 2022 issue of Computer Music magazine, which features a free copy of the Syntronik 2 J-60 synth (sounds of the Roland Juno-60), which includes 19 juicy wavesets and lots of presets! BTW: For synth enthusiasts, I think this issue of Computer Music magazine is worth the 4 bucks even without the free Syntronik 2 J-60 synth, as it also features "60 Years of the Synth - the gear, pioneers and sounds that changed the world" and other related goodies.
If you don't want to install and test the free version, at least go to the Syntronik 2 webpage and listen (on a good set of speakers or headphones) to the audio demos - the overview ones for Syntronik 2 as well as the ones for the individual Syntronik 2 synths. And check out the currently available (for a limited time) amazing Group Buy - up to all 33 (currently 25!) Syntronik 2 synths for the price of one ($49.99, or about $35 if you have IK Multimedia Jam Points). Enjoy!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 19793 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Does IK pay you by the word or..... 
Someone who just joined KVR right in the middle of the group buy and has only two posts both in high praise of Synthronik 2. The more cynical among us may call that sock puppetry.....
I agree that it's a nice instrument capable of some wonderful sounds but let's not get carried away...
Someone who just joined KVR right in the middle of the group buy and has only two posts both in high praise of Synthronik 2. The more cynical among us may call that sock puppetry.....
I agree that it's a nice instrument capable of some wonderful sounds but let's not get carried away...
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRer
- 3 posts since 2 May, 2022
Sorry, I wasn't aware of a minimum time period or number of posts required before being allowed to share an opinion. I quoted industry reviews, and offered what I was quite clear was my personal opinion.
I've spent years looking for and testing VIs that claimed to reproduce the sounds of the beloved analog synths. For my needs I care less about things like disk and memory footprint, extraneous features, pretty UI, etc. I care most about *the sound*. I've tested, purchased and used many. In my experience and opinion, Syntronik *sounds* the best. With Syntronik 2, the story got even better with additional flexibility to find and form even more sounds and flavors. So after many years of looking, testing, and spending, am I excited to find something that sounds (and plays) great? You bet I am!
Does Syntronik have some warts? Of course, they all do. But again, to me it sounds the best. That's what's important to me, and I'm guessing that may be important to some others.
In addition, as I've read this and other related threads, I've noticed considerable confusion regarding the Syntronik product; it's place and purpose, it's marketing, etc. I tried to address some of this as well, in hopes of clarifying some things for some readers.
My intent is to be helpful; maybe you can assist me in this endeavor. In what part or portion of my post do you feel I was 'getting carried away'?
I've spent years looking for and testing VIs that claimed to reproduce the sounds of the beloved analog synths. For my needs I care less about things like disk and memory footprint, extraneous features, pretty UI, etc. I care most about *the sound*. I've tested, purchased and used many. In my experience and opinion, Syntronik *sounds* the best. With Syntronik 2, the story got even better with additional flexibility to find and form even more sounds and flavors. So after many years of looking, testing, and spending, am I excited to find something that sounds (and plays) great? You bet I am!
Does Syntronik have some warts? Of course, they all do. But again, to me it sounds the best. That's what's important to me, and I'm guessing that may be important to some others.
In addition, as I've read this and other related threads, I've noticed considerable confusion regarding the Syntronik product; it's place and purpose, it's marketing, etc. I tried to address some of this as well, in hopes of clarifying some things for some readers.
My intent is to be helpful; maybe you can assist me in this endeavor. In what part or portion of my post do you feel I was 'getting carried away'?
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- KVRian
- 790 posts since 9 Feb, 2019
Sounds great, really. I was mainly surprised of the FX that lift the samples on an other level.Ahainsworth1 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 10:10 pm In my experience and opinion, Syntronik *sounds* the best.
Question: am I the only one here who has listened through the "Oscillators" with *all off* and thinks that the samples were treated / mastered?
Too "clean" for my demands :/ But yeah - awesome vfm and impressing sound.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 19793 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
There is no minimum time, you're welcome to give your opinion from the first minute you join.Ahainsworth1 wrote: Fri May 20, 2022 10:10 pm Sorry, I wasn't aware of a minimum time period or number of posts required before being allowed to share an opinion.
But if you had been a member here for any length of time you'd know that overly glowing reviews from new members tend to raise suspicions. Your overly verbose post being a prime example.
There have been instances in the past where new members were nothing more than shills whose sole purpose was to hype a product.
I'm not saying that you are one but to be honest of all the developers I would expect to employ shills IK would certainly be one of them.
Like I said Syntronik 2 is a nice instrument capable of some wonderful sounds but it's hardly the zenith of synthesizer development.
I've owned Syntroinik 1 since it was first released many years ago and hadn't used it in quite some time.
I only bought in to the Syntronik 2 group buy because I'm a sucker for a good deal. At a much higher price I would have passed.
For $35 with jampoints it's a great deal and I've already said that more times than you have posts.
But factor in the inevitable quirks in IK software, compatibility issues between versions, and quite frankly substandard support, then things are not as rosy as you might depict.
So your enthusiasm could be seen as a bit over the top especially to experienced members.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe