Syntronik 2 Discussions

[BurningSG]

I also know there are some excellent free synths out that that are more than capable, and won't eat up my drive. Is this really worth the amount of space it will take up ?

Install the free Syntronik 2 CS edition and judge for yourself. It comes with a starter set of sounds that you can audition. https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/s ... ronik-2-cs

Thanks for your reply Z. I did download the free Syntronik 2 CS but again found it to be very bland generic sounding, not all that different from their sampletank. However to be fair I'm aware that there are far more sounds available in the full version and demos are only as good as the presets they give you. Also S2 by it's very nature will eat up a large amount of drive space which I can't afford (Apple Tax) so I'm trying to determine if it's worthwhile. In contrast, synths such as the Arturia collection have a minimal hit on HD space. So I was hoping to get some opinions from those that have both what their thoughts on this was. If they're basically the same more or less, I'd rather go with the lighter of the two.

[YnJ]

So I was hoping to get some opinions from those that have both what their thoughts on this was. If they're basically the same more or less, I'd rather go with the lighter of the two.

I'm underwhelmed regarding Syntronik, it's the same UI and filters on all the "synths", the filters are meh, and the samples really clog up your hard drive and they really don't sound that great either. Arturia is a completely different experience, they actually simulate the original synths, and sound great, or at least as great as the original synth. You can't even compare them. While Arturia is more expensive, at least compared to Syntronik 2 now with the group buy, I'm actually using most of the Arturia synths, the 25 or so Syntronik 2 "synths" I got for $34.99 was $34.99 wasted

$49.99 at full price is just insane when you can get much better alternatives from Cherry Audio for less

[Zipede]

"it's the same UI and filters on all the "synths","

Every synth has it's own UI, the easiest way to find it is to click on the small image of the synth next to the preset name.

[BurningSG]

I'm underwhelmed regarding Syntronik, it's the same UI and filters on all the "synths", the filters are meh, and the samples really clog up your hard drive and they really don't sound that great either.

That's essentially what I've found so far. The Syntronik 2 sounds are quite bland and underwhelming. In contrast I think their Hammond B-3X and SampleTron 2 are very good. And I'm a fan of Amplitube 5 and use it often. Though Syntronik 2 is a disappointment. That and since I'm switching over to Apple Silicon the cost of HD space is a definite consideration. The price right now is great, but I think I'll be paying on the back-end with wasted HD space. Though I'm wondering if you can weed out the filler and just keep what you want. Not sure how that would work out.

[zzz00m]

Though I'm wondering if you can weed out the filler and just keep what you want. Not sure how that would work out.

There is no need to install all of the instruments. Just install the ones that you might actually use.

But I don't think there is a practical way to weed out certain presets from within an instrument. Seems to be all or none per instrument...

[Teksonik]

No, wait. I thought if I went through the individual standalones and got them to rescan libraries it would tidy things up a wee bit. But no, since yesterday, Syntronik2 now no longer sees any of the Syntronik2 content. WTF?

Okay, so that's 'resolved'. All I had to do was reinstall one of the Syntronik 2 libraries. Only my third round of reinstalls of this stuff since yesterday, so that's perfectly normal, right?

Y'know once upon a time it was enough just to back up the installed ST content folders, and that would be enough. Clearly not any more.

So now that Ive done that, I can rescan in ST4 again (for about the thirtieth time in 24 hours) aaaand...

still no f**king Syntronik2 content there. Oh, but the second instance of that library I reinstalled now shows up as locked too. And 'ST3 Imported' is still empty. FFS.

I think you might be running into the same problem I have....

For those of us with other, older IK products already installed the downloadable installers get confused as to where to put the content and that can cause missing sample issues even with just simply re-saving a factory preset with a different name.

I have a ticket in with IK Support but it's like talking to a brick wall.

I had the original Syntronik 1 installed along with Sampletank 3 and some old ST 2 legacy libraries like Sonik Synth. I then installed Sampletank 4 CS and the install path issue has gotten things really messed up. For example ST3 4 looks for the same sample content in different locations than ST4 and so on. Yes I could fix it here by manually moving (and in some cases duplicating) a bunch of stuff but the point is that IK's installers should not get so easily confused. I have always allowed IK content to install where it wants because a developer's installers should know the best location where content is installed.

There are also issues with multis created in Syntronik 1 not importing properly in Syn 2 and multis created in Sampletank 3 not loading properly in ST4.

I'd create support tickets for those issue as well but I haven't the willpower or patience to deal with support any further.

Those who have just purchased Syntronik 2 and don't have any other IK products installed should have no problems.

I think the issue may be that the installers are picking up registry keys for previous installations and sending samples and instruments to those locations.

At any rate simply clicking "continue, agree, continue, install" without making any manual changes in installers provided by IK in our accounts should not cause problems.

[Teksonik]

So I was hoping to get some opinions from those that have both what their thoughts on this was. If they're basically the same more or less, I'd rather go with the lighter of the two.

I'm underwhelmed regarding Syntronik, it's the same UI and filters on all the "synths", the filters are meh, and the samples really clog up your hard drive and they really don't sound that great either. Arturia is a completely different experience, they actually simulate the original synths, and sound great, or at least as great as the original synth. You can't even compare them. While Arturia is more expensive, at least compared to Syntronik 2 now with the group buy, I'm actually using most of the Arturia synths, the 25 or so Syntronik 2 "synths" I got for $34.99 was $34.99 wasted

$49.99 at full price is just insane when you can get much better alternatives from Cherry Audio for less

I find most Arturia synths bland and generic sounding (or have insanely high CPU demand). There is not one $49 Cherry Audio synth that can make the range of sounds as Synthronik 2 especially now when we're at 25 instruments including some that aren't analog. Cherry Audio synths are all starting to have a generic sound to me as well.

Is Syntronik 2 the greatest synth ever released? No of course not but even for the full $49 without jampoints if one can't get some usable and pleasant sounds out of it then I think the problem lies elsewhere.

I think the problem is that people see "sample" and think "that's not a synth" and that just points out how myopic their definition of synthesis really is.

If you understand what Syntronik 2 can do and what features and functions are available (once you actually go to the Edit and Layers pages) then factor in the price even at $49 I think it's easy to see that it is a good value despite its quirks.

Remember you can make your own presets. I'll agree that many of the factory presets aren't impressive.

At any rate I've made some great sounds with Syntronik 2 and had a ton of fun with it (when I'm not dealing with those quirks) so I don't regret joining the group buy one bit.

EDIT: Ok I've just got lost for the past half hour playing this Multi. It's just three layered factory presets with a few tweaks. Juno 60, Jupiter 8, and Oberheim Matrix 12. Lots of fun.

Big Arse Synth 2 Tek.zip

[jeffn1]

I can't really tell whether there are enough (or the correct) presets to cover (let's say) synth sounds in the top 500 songs each year since 1970 (through 2000 maybe(?)). That is sort of "my" objective. (I am no sound designer).

I wonder if IK's plan is to use this synths as a basis to sell presets for genres going forward. I think this is a growing area (maybe its been around for a while).

If not, maybe they should consider it.

Jeff

[Teksonik]

You want enough presets to cover the synth sounds in 15,000 songs?

First of all not every synth used during those 30 years is represented in this collection.

You could cover many of the sounds in many of those songs but wanting to cover every one in every song is unrealistic.

If you're going to be in a band I'd say you're going to have to gain some sound design skills.

Nothing is going to be 100% plug and play without some level of effort.

[zzz00m]

I can't really tell whether there are enough (or the correct) presets to cover (let's say) synth sounds in the top 500 songs each year since 1970 (through 2000 maybe(?)). That is sort of "my" objective. (I am no sound designer).

KORG Triton + Arturia V Collection + Syntronik?

[BurningSG]

At any rate I've made some great sounds with Syntronik 2 and had a ton of fun with it (when I'm not dealing with those quirks) so I don't regret joining the group buy one bit.

Tek, do you have any songs/demos online using Syntronik 2 ? I'd be curious to hear what you're doing with it. If not yourself, then maybe others you know of ?

[glokraw]

I can't really tell whether there are enough (or the correct) presets to cover (let's say) synth sounds in the top 500 songs each year since 1970 (through 2000 maybe(?)). That is sort of "my" objective. (I am no sound designer).

I wonder if IK's plan is to use this synths as a basis to sell presets for genres going forward. I think this is a growing area (maybe its been around for a while).

If not, maybe they should consider it.

Jeff

Find out the gear (synths/effects) used by the bands you most often cover,
and the historicallyl most popular synths. Link with the Syntronik versions.
You might also want a Korg Collection software when on sale.
Get the world's most versatile rackmount synth, and a midi controller with lots
and lots of controls...then live long and prosper

[jeffn1]

I can't really tell whether there are enough (or the correct) presets to cover (let's say) synth sounds in the top 500 songs each year since 1970 (through 2000 maybe(?)). That is sort of "my" objective. (I am no sound designer).

KORG Triton + Arturia V Collection + Syntronik?

I am pretty much doings the poor man's version of this. Frankly my little Casio CTK 7200 gets me most of the way there, but up am using up Registrations (used for splits and layers) and isn't as flixible as i like (add samples of glass breaking beginning of I May Be Right, plane taking if beginning of Back in the USSR). I bought Analog Labs with lots of presets and will add this group buy. I think I'm in decent shape (Session Horns, VG Saxes). Feel pretty we situated.

[jeffn1]

I can't really tell whether there are enough (or the correct) presets to cover (let's say) synth sounds in the top 500 songs each year since 1970 (through 2000 maybe(?)). That is sort of "my" objective. (I am no sound designer).

KORG Triton + Arturia V Collection + Syntronik?

I am pretty much doings the poor man's version of this. Frankly my little Casio CTK 7200 gets me most of the way there, but up am using up Registrations (used for splits and layers) and isn't as flixible as i like (add samples of glass breaking beginning of You May Be Right, plane taking if beginning of Back in the USSR). I bought Analog Labs with lots of presets and will add this group buy. I think I'm in decent shape (Session Horns, VG Saxes). Feel pretty well situated.

[Teksonik]

If not yourself, then maybe others you know of ?

I got nothing but here are some IK demo tracks..

https://soundcloud.com/ikmultimedia/set ... udio-demos