Kilohearts Updates the Entire Kilohearts Ecosystem to v2 - Including Phase Plant

[Trancit]

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I didn't doubt it would , but I'll enjoy your repeated fails in the future.

My fails...???

Let´s analyze a bit of your arguments... you claim that khs now destroyed the ability to regain some value if you decide to sell them again...

Let´s look into reality... at least the half of the khs plugins which are now free couldn´t have been sold anyway because people aren´t interested in them at all... they stay in the "for sale" threads forever... so no loss at all...
The others which sometimes have been sold went mostly over the counter for about $7,- per plugin...

Let´s say you could sell the half of the newly free ones for 7,-$ each... this would bring you (idk) 70-100,-$...

This eventual loss, which perhaps... eventually... if you ever decide so ... could eventually put at max 100,-$ into your pocket brings you to your knees and let you blame a company which just brought you a huge huge update for free for which you would have paid (idk again) 100 - 150,-$ at other companies...

I guess you know whose mindset is more wrong and who will repeatingly fail in future...

[rezoneight]

Anyone who buys plugins expecting to sell them has a screw loose. It's hard enough to sell real hardware let alone software.

For me, I was never interested in Phase Plant before because of the goofy pricing structure they had which is thankfully now in the dustbin. The freebies are a nice touch. So to the guy who said "they suck at marketing", no...they sucked, past tense. What they have now is about 5 million times better.

Wonder if any of you guys complaining are upset that Snap Heap won't be free anymore and new customers will have to pay for that? I'd bet not.

[chagzuki]

I take this as a general symptom of deflation in technology in general, i.e. prices tend to go down over time. Assuming devs can sustain themselves with these prices Phaseplant getting cheaper means competing products have to get cheaper too, so in the bigger picture it's good for musicians.

[gondii]

I was really hoping that they would add the filters to the generator section. Now that they are free, I see even less reason to not do that... well done on the modulation though.

[AcrossTheSky]

does anyone know what are the phase plant demo limitations? thx

10 days. Click as if you were going to buy the ultimate bundle, and you'll see the option to download as a 10-day trial. I wasn't aware of any other limitations when I tried it a few months ago.

thanks for that

[starflakeprj]

I wouldn't say the entire Kilohearts ecosystem when ONE doesn't seem to be updated. I would love to get it updated though, if so only with a resizing option. But I remember ONE being obsolete. Still sounds pretty good, but so so so small.

[LeVzi]

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I didn't doubt it would , but I'll enjoy your repeated fails in the future.

My fails...???

Let´s analyze a bit of your arguments... you claim that khs now destroyed the ability to regain some value if you decide to sell them again...

Let´s look into reality... at least the half of the khs plugins which are now free couldn´t have been sold anyway because people aren´t interested in them at all... they stay in the "for sale" threads forever... so no loss at all...
The others which sometimes have been sold went mostly over the counter for about $7,- per plugin...

Let´s say you could sell the half of the newly free ones for 7,-$ each... this would bring you (idk) 70-100,-$...

This eventual loss, which perhaps... eventually... if you ever decide so ... could eventually put at max 100,-$ into your pocket brings you to your knees and let you blame a company which just brought you a huge huge update for free for which you would have paid (idk again) 100 - 150,-$ at other companies...

I guess you know whose mindset is more wrong and who will repeatingly fail in future...

Not at all, you just validated my arguement, Thanks.

So you are saying these plugins are useless ? Do you even own PP ? Do you even use them ?

And I am not against paying for updates if they are worth it. But ONLY if they are worth it.

But you crack on trying to convince me otherwise, believe me, it won't happen.

[D.K Envelope]

this free plugins are insane good
i really like the transient shaper by the way the rack extension still cost something
so its not free at all

[Trancit]

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So you are saying these plugins are useless ? Do you even own PP ? Do you even use them ?

And I am not against paying for updates if they are worth it. But ONLY if they are worth it.

But you crack on trying to convince me otherwise, believe me, it won't happen.

Boy forget it... you cannot even read properly... this is like discussing quantum physics with a donkey... have a good life and don´t forget: keep excusing yourself properly for all the hate you love to carry in you that it´s always the fault of the others... it´s never you!

No, I am not speaking of myself... just to clarify it for you because you seem to have problems with understanding!

[db3]

I sold all my KH Snapins last year because I didn't like the Phase Plant + Effects model, but I've just bought Phase Plant thanks to the sale price + Effect pack. I was really surprised by the free offer — there are some really good individual effects in there. I can see why people would be put out though. I see they are offering some sort of grace period offer.

[LeVzi]

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So you are saying these plugins are useless ? Do you even own PP ? Do you even use them ?

And I am not against paying for updates if they are worth it. But ONLY if they are worth it.

But you crack on trying to convince me otherwise, believe me, it won't happen.

Boy forget it... you cannot even read properly... this is like discussing quantum physics with a donkey... have a good life and don´t forget: keep excusing yourself properly for all the hate you love to carry in you that it´s always the fault of the others... it´s never you!

No, I am not speaking of myself... just to clarify it for you because you seem to have problems with understanding!

Wow, catching feelings much ?

But as I said before, you matter nothing to me , nor does your opinion. There's no hate in me, only for arrogant ****'s like you that try so hard to not understand other peoples opinions and your's is gospel and you try to ram it down their throat.

A few on here suffer that problem. Crack on junior, this is going no where.

[j[b++]]

Is MPE-Support limited to MPE-Timbre only?

Am I correct that MPE-Pitch isn't supported in the actual version Phase Plant 2.0?

If so, are there any plans to implement MPE-Pitch in the future?

[ChriBu]

Obviously, there is nothing more to earn from the old customers - they are useless now, after they have financed the whole "fun" and made it possible with their money in the first place. Now the fruits of the mutual relationship between the paying customers and the company are simply distributed to all in a socialist manner - and woe betide one of the cashcows complaining about it! *** Stop whining, we want to be able to enjoy our undeserved booty! Shut up! ***

And of course the freeloaders are in the majority here, who think it's all great, but that´s not! And just because software doesn't have a physical appearance doesn't mean it's worthless - and the loss of value is real! In my case, $400 for the (old) Ultimate toolbox that I bought to be able to use Phaseplant without restrictions. For many, this is not just about a plugin or two, but about the equivalent of a good computer monitor (or similar).

And if someone would buy for example a monitor for $400, which is given away for free to everyone a short time later, who wouldn't see the disadvantage - and understand that this can't be fair? And how arrogant and unsympathetic must one be, if one explains to the disadvantaged person with moral self-exaltation that he has not experienced any disadvantage, because after all he can use the monitor ...

The understanding for social relationships and the needs of other people (for equality and fairness) seems to be really not present at all with some people. No wonder if the world is going crazy ...

I wouldn't mind if two or three more plugins were added to the previously free plugins. Everyone is welcome to that. But not all 30 Snappins, which used to cost a lot of money (especially if you bought them individually)! No, this "gift" is out of all proportion and, in my opinion, even goes against common decency!

I have bought plugins and other software so far in the belief that by paying the full price I was also contributing something to the preservation of a company (and its jobs) and to the development of future products. In return, I was granted the "exclusive" right to use the products. A reciprocal relationship. But if the products can now be used by anyone for free, the value for the money paid is lost. And it consists not only in being able to use the product, but in being able to use it exclusively - Just like you don't let a stranger ride a paid cab for free just because he happen to be headed in the same direction!

Most people who disagree with the procedure by Kilohearts will not post here on the forum, but they will vote with the purse.

We will see if Kilohearts will do better with the "new customers" than with such "idiots" as me, who thought they were getting value for their money, such as exclusive rights. Anyway, I'm out forever! Kilohearts will not earn another Krona“ from me. Those who do not follow the socially common rules and disregard mutual relationships do not deserve trust or support.

The Phaseplant is also only one synth of many - and there are much better ones that remain worth their money!

[SLiC]

Anyway, I'm out forever! Kilohearts will not earn another Krona“ from me.

Good job V2 was a free update then!

[Stan Navi]

I think it is great move from Kilohearts. I bought half of their fx, i also owned phase plant and now i bought it again. Their stuff is high quality and very helpful. Though music is my hobby i made some income from arranging songs and always used Khs fx, so i don't regret that it is free now. The thing is if it is useful and high quality, why you need to complain? I am more dissapointed by Izotope, Plugin Alliance business model, when they try to sell you new product by 249$, then after half year for 29$.