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When dragging ( converting) full songs onto the phrases browser is it possible to have an option we're it only copies the first 8 bars of each track rather than the full length of the track

Would save a lot of time and be more convenient when converting into generators or editing especially when using in idea tool as it's hard to see the actual pattern in the display box when it is so long.

Thanks

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musicdevelopments wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:16 pm the voicing is not applied to the master track chord. I'll have a fix shortly.

There's more to this than instantly obvious, right?

I'm guessing that every chord may now have to carry two "special" flags:

1. Bass Pedal special yes/no
2. Treble Note special yes/no

and then various algos throughout the program will have to act differently if either of those flags is set.

For example, when we drag in the main view to change voicings (which is one RC's most excellent features), we would want to leave the bass note unchanged on the bottom for case 1 and the treble note unchanged on the top for case 2, while still somehow allowing movement of the entire chord (incl. bass and treble) between different octaves.

A new operation that comes to mind would be: Apply Pedal to Selected Chords

In this case, given multiple contiguous chords, the user would be able to choose to apply a pedal (either bass or treble) of any of the 12 tones to all the selected chords. An op like this would both change note content (in general) and set flags for all the affected chords, as well as "align" them voicing-wise on the pedal note.

I'm just speculating here. I can see why getting RC to take full compositional advantage of pedals would not be an overnight effort!

What can you say, Attila, about how you are currently thinking about this?

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Thank you, lulukom! :tu:
This was very helpful!
I am going to upload v4.3.4 on Monday with this and other fixes.

Thanks,
Attila
lulukom wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:07 pm I know that it is not very pleasant when you are distracted from the creative process, but I have to do this))
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Thanks Attila! It would also be nice to explain to me about the locks in the percussion generator ... When I close the lock on the track, it changes color and I understand that it is closed and no changes will occur to this percussion track. But when on another percussive track I change from one rhythm to another, for example, then the lock on that first track changes back to the default color. What does it mean ? Is the first track still locked or is it opening? I understand that if it opens, then this is a bug. If it remains closed , but its color reverts to uncolored default , then that 's also a bug . Maybe I did not understand something in the operation of this interface?

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musicdevelopments wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:00 pm Thank you, lulukom! :tu:
This was very helpful!
I am going to upload v4.3.4 on Monday with this and other fixes.

Thanks,
Attila
lulukom wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:07 pm I know that it is not very pleasant when you are distracted from the creative process, but I have to do this))
Hi Attila

Please could you change RC or adaptor it so when dragging full songs on to the phase library.

It only takes the first 32 bars of any pattern i.e. Leeds, bass, Melody

There's no benefit for it to extract the whole length of the track, would be a great time Saver and much more convenient and useful if you could change it.

Thanks

D

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musicdevelopments wrote: Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:13 pm
lovemusic15 wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 7:47 am Does anybody know what's happening with this MIDI manipulator.?
I am back, and I am concentrating on MIDI manipulator and RapidComposer 100%!
My ideas are not finalized so sometimes I'll upload a beta version and ask you if the directions are OK.
Thanks for your patience! :clap:

Attila
Two months later, when we can expect a new version od RapidComposer to appear (that contains MIDI manipulator tab)?

I think that MIDI manipulator could help my to finish easily and quicker many of my MIDI songs...

Stjepan

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Hello Stjepan,

the MIDI manipulator is close to be finished. In about a week I'll upload a beta version with the almost final implementation. What works now after dropping a MIDI file:
- Toolbar (always available): quantize, locking/unlocking notes, invert horizontally and vertically (diatonic and chromatic), transpose (diatonic and chromatic), set/change velocities, set/change note lengths
- Rhythm: regenerate rhythm using 5 algorithms, with optional repetition, with note length option
- Rhythm: random rhythm displacement with 4 options
- Chords: Extend voicing, Optimize voicing, Randomize voicing with Density and Spread options
- Chords: Get a random progression
- Chords: Add/remove notes (add 3rd, 5th or 7th downward or upward, remove top or bottom note)
- Shape: Randomize pitches for a certain number of notes using one of the allowed up/down transpositions

More to come, like changing or randomizing accents.
The editor works like this: there is a chords track, which is set up automatically if you move around notes. So if you change the notes, the chords are updated. Or you can change the chords, then the notes are updated according to the new chord. I hope this will be useful.

Thanks,
Attila
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Sounds intriguing!) I liked it very much
The editor works like this: there is a chords track, which is set up automatically if you move around notes. So if you change the notes, the chords are updated. Or you can change the chords, then the notes are updated according to the new chord.
I would also like to Analyze the Midi File rhythmically, harmonically, by scale and something like "make variations of this .." well, or "in the style of this .."))

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Good idea, lulukom!
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Thanks for the progress report Attila. Exciting stuff!

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In the voicing, can you add an option to always drop the 5th? (optional not use the 5th) (I watched that video on voicings lol)

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lulukom wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 1:21 pm Sounds intriguing!) I liked it very much
The editor works like this: there is a chords track, which is set up automatically if you move around notes. So if you change the notes, the chords are updated. Or you can change the chords, then the notes are updated according to the new chord.
I would also like to Analyze the Midi File rhythmically, harmonically, by scale and something like "make variations of this .." well, or "in the style of this .."))


I second that idea

There should be an option where you import a MIDI file of say a melody and it gives you alternative variations of that pattern.

Would make a great remix tool.

Anybody that's used melody sauce vst 2 will realise how powerful it is when you have a melody and it gives you alternative variations.

Very creativity especially if you want to revamp some of your old projects.


Attila I sent you a you a video on this

This is some thing that melody sauce cant do with midi as you can't input midi so there a cap in the market for this feature
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musicdevelopments wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 2:07 pm Good idea, lulukom!

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musicdevelopments wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 12:39 pm Hello Stjepan,

the MIDI manipulator is close to be finished. In about a week I'll upload a beta version with the almost final implementation. What works now after dropping a MIDI file:
- Toolbar (always available): quantize, locking/unlocking notes, invert horizontally and vertically (diatonic and chromatic), transpose (diatonic and chromatic), set/change velocities, set/change note lengths
- Rhythm: regenerate rhythm using 5 algorithms, with optional repetition, with note length option
- Rhythm: random rhythm displacement with 4 options
- Chords: Extend voicing, Optimize voicing, Randomize voicing with Density and Spread options
- Chords: Get a random progression
- Chords: Add/remove notes (add 3rd, 5th or 7th downward or upward, remove top or bottom note)
- Shape: Randomize pitches for a certain number of notes using one of the allowed up/down transpositions

More to come, like changing or randomizing accents.
The editor works like this: there is a chords track, which is set up automatically if you move around notes. So if you change the notes, the chords are updated. Or you can change the chords, then the notes are updated according to the new chord. I hope this will be useful.

Thanks,
Attila

Hello Attila,

thanks for the very comprehensive information! I think that MIDI Manipulator in RapidComposer will be extremely useful!

It looks like something much bigger than I have dreamed of back in 1997 while painstakingly programming my hardware MIDI sequencer Yamaha QY-700. Then I had the idea that one day I should be able to edit MIDI files easily as texts in WORD or as mechanical drawings in AutoCAD. (I am a mechanical engineer by profession).

How could I get that beta version with the almost final implementation? (I have licenses for RapidComposer, Melodya and Fyler).

Thanks,
Stjepan

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musicdevelopments wrote: Sun May 22, 2022 12:39 pm the MIDI manipulator is close to be finished.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Very much looking forward to this. :tu:

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