Would someone help me with Samplitude SE? I'm desperate

[jmbriley]

OK for every file you open Samp SE creates two other types of "peak" files. To me this is ignoring. I like to have my files nice and neat but with Samp you have scores of extra files. I want to know if there is a way you can automatically have these files deleted when you close the program like Sound Forge or Audition or can you have all of these files place in one special folder like Reaper? If not what do you usually do. Delete them manually or pay them no attention? Thanks. Please help me I'm desperate.

[Zagnut]

You need to chill out m8.

'Peak' files? Unless I'm way out of my depth here, I'm gonna say that they are just some tiny graphical-representation-of-wavs type of files.

I suggest you ignore them and go back to combing your wool socks or something.

[jmbriley]

Thanks do you use Samplitude?

[jens]

'Peak' files? Unless I'm way out of my depth here, I'm gonna say that they are just some tiny graphical-representation-of-wavs type of files.

it's still annoying that Samplitudes leave its shit in the respective folder for every single .wav-file you open with it (and as soon as you open it - and they stay there even if you close Samplitude without saving) - it's two files for each .wav ...


(...in case you don't use Samplitude I suggest to stay out of it. )


Jmbriley, I'm afraid there's nothing you can do about it - as annoying as it might be.

[Stupid American Pig]

well you could always sort the folder on file extension, and then at least all yer wavs would be in a group...

[Michael Benjamin]

hi, im using samplitude 8.31 classic

you cant auto delete the peak files in samplitude like in soundforge...its quite stupid

only way i found is to get some explorer substitute like idoswin free that has file type filters that dont show these peak files

or you get some script that auto-deletes *.hdp *.hmp *.h2 and *hm2 on all your dics on windows logon/logoff, or you do it manually

greetings

[jens]

only way i found is to get some explorer substitute like idoswin free that has file type filters that dont show these peak files

or you get some script that auto-deletes *.hdp *.hmp *.h2 and *hm2 on all your dics on windows logon/logoff, or you do it manually

greetings

good suggestions...


I use Samplitude mainly as a wave-editor and I often use my desktop for temporary files which I want to edit - so I always have to clean it up after using Samplitude...

[jmbriley]

Thanks Micheal, Stupid and jens you all have given me some ideas. I appreciate it.

[siriusbliss]

Because Samplitude is object-based vs. destructive editor, it will always create the HDP's, etc. everytime you open a .wav or .mp3 file.

So why not just leave them all in the project folder?

Getting rid of these other files is redundant.

Use project folders, it's easier to organize.

Greg

[jens]

there's no reason why there's not an option to auto-delete them - also there could be an option not to create them at all, they are not always needed - furtheron there should be an option to place them all in one certain folder the user could specify - the missing of these simple options is just stupid with such an enormously complex programme as Samplitude is.

besides I use Samplitude mostly as a destructive editor.

[siriusbliss]

You can path all the HDP's etc. to the same folder. Hit the 'Y' key to setup your paths.
The .HDP's maintain all your other settings, automation, etc. rather than embedding everything in a destructive mode.

Again, if you don't care for the non-destructive editing in Samp., you can change always to another program that isn't object based.

Greg

[JoaCHIP]

Finally a solution:

Edit the file %ProgramData%\MAGIX\Samplitude Pro X6 Suite\Sam_x64.ini
Find the [Setup] section and make sure these two keys are there with the following values:

Code: Select all

AllHdpFilesInSubDirectory=0
AllHdpFilesInOneDirectory=1

[Trensharo]

Because Samplitude is object-based vs. destructive editor, it will always create the HDP's, etc. everytime you open a .wav or .mp3 file.

Samplitude is also a Destructive Wave Editor. This is part of the reason why it can be such a good alternative to software like Steinberg WaveLab - even if you don't product music.

For destructive editing, it creates Wave Project files. So, this is really just a correction of this information. Even if used destructively, it will create another file to add onto the pile.

So why not just leave them all in the project folder?

Because it's not just the project folder. If you reference any files, vs. copying them, it will create those files in the directory of the file referenced. This is annoying for people who reference files off a sample drive, as you can - over time - create thousands of "junk files" on that drive.

Getting rid of these other files is redundant.

Redundant and Unnecessary aren't synonymous (Pet peeve). Redundant means it serves the same purpose as something else that is already being done (so you're doing the same work for no benefit).

The files are necessary if you're going to reference that Samplitude Project again. In some cases, they contain the actions made when editing that object in the project. They can contain other necessary information, as well.

If you delete them, then that information is deleted with them, and when you open the project it will not open at the same state you last saved it. Some edits, etc. may be missing.

Use project folders, it's easier to organize.

There is nothing inherently organized about Project Folders in Samplitude. It does not attempt to organize things into neat subfolders the way some other DAWs (Studio One, Cubase, etc.) do. It just throws everything into one big folder (except maybe backup projects) by default - and the application settings in that area aren't very extensive.

Any organization done is on the part of the user, which is why some people may choose to simply reference files they are not destructively editing in the application. Referencing them means they have to do less project maintenance as it pertains to organizing those files, as the DAW does not do this for them automatically.

[Trensharo]

You can path all the HDP's etc. to the same folder. Hit the 'Y' key to setup your paths.
The .HDP's maintain all your other settings, automation, etc. rather than embedding everything in a destructive mode.

Again, if you don't care for the non-destructive editing in Samp., you can change always to another program that isn't object based.

Greg

This has nothing to do with Samplitude being Object-Oriented, as this information can simply be put in the project file. They just decided to put them in separate files.

And again, even when used as a destructive wave editor, Samplitude will create Wave Projects for the files edited. So, this whole Object-Oriented/Non-Destructive explanation makes little practical sense.

It may, perhaps, be what the developers who initially designed this mechanism were thinking, but this was not the only solution (though file size limitations may have been a factor back then, and they simply failed to revisit the design later).

All of MAGIX Audio/Video Applications do this (Music Maker, Video Pro X). Sony applications also do this (Peak Files). Though Sound Forge does allow you to automatically delete these when the file is closed, VEGAS Pro (last I checked) did not (and referencing vs. copying data is even more common in Video).

I think if they just put this all in a Subdirectory of the project directory by default (whether the file was referenced or copied), this would be less of an issue. It just creates a lot of clutter, and doing something incorrect when trying to organize it yourself can break/destroy project data.