Lazy developers exposed by Apple M1 transition (lack of native updates)

[Dirtgrain]

"Right" implying what? It is right to be disrespectful? The situation warrants it? How so?

[melomood]

I wonder how much overlap there is between users leaving winky posts about how superior apple is to pc and users complaining because apple has yet again done something to fook with their programs in grand fashion

[Korg Supporter]

I wonder how many Mac users don't give a sheeaat because they are satisfied with making music in Logic Pro X with stock plugins.

[jamcat]

None on KVR.
They wouldn’t be here if they were.

[Ploki]

I've recently made the jump from Custom PC builds to an M1 Mac mini -minimum spec. I'm impressed with the performance of apple OS for audio in general compared to windows but the 8gb ram was a really bad choice that I instantly regretted. Soon as I hit Max ram and the UI starts to turn to a PowerPoint presentation. So annoying you cannot upgrade to a bigger chip they should have just made minimum spec 16GB UM. The OS these days plus a few chrome tabs eats enough memory. Kudos to the many devs who have already updated their plugins to support it. The only one that's annoyed me so far is D16 who I know are already way behind on updating their soft synths and must lose out on loads of potential profit from resales. I imagine having worked on updates and then having the M1 bomb dropped on them was probably their worst nightmare. The fact that their audio effects work natively is hopefully a good sign that they can do it and that they're simply trying to get their paid upgrades out the door asap along with some much anticipated updates to their synths.

Chrome on MacOS is garbage. It will eat RAM, CPU and run slow on any OS.
It turns fans on faster than Logic on my M1.

I wonder how many Mac users don't give a sheeaat because they are satisfied with making music in Logic Pro X with stock plugins.

shit about what? 99% of everything is native.
100% of anything worthwhile is native.

[jamcat]

100% of anything worthwhile is native.

Relab LX480 isn’t worthwhile?
T-RackS isn’t worthwhile?
ARC3 isn’t worthwhile?
Virtual Soundstage isn’t worthwhile?

[_leras]

yeah can we get back to apple vs PC instead?

PC. 100%. Every time.

I've lost track of the amount of times people with Macs have been left unable to upgrade the OS without losing access to paid for programs that no longer run on a new version of the OS. So much time, effort to work around these things.

I've lost a couple of things moving across versions on PC over the years, but so insignificant in comparison to users of Macs.


Oh, and also PC as in politically correct on a music forum. 100%. Why allow anything offensive at all when the topic is clearly just music.

[FapFilter]

Even Apple is advertising the Mac Studio as a PC on their web page. At least the German one

[chk071]

Talking about "lazy" developers, Lennardigital has its "out time" phase again. Last update was more than 2 years ago, and people are "pressing" about a native M1 and VST3 version.

I sometimes wonder what such developers do for a living. It can't be audio plugin development.

[cel4145]

Talking about "lazy" developers, Lennardigital has its "out time" phase again. Last update was more than 2 years ago, and people are "pressing" about a native M1 and VST3 version.

I sometimes wonder what such developers do for a living. It can't be audio plugin development.

Sylenth1 is a synthesizer that was released in 2007 with much less popularity now than in previous years. Can't imagine it's generating a lot of purchase revenue these days. Of course it's likely that the original developer has another day job. People have to move on to other projects/jobs to make a living.

So while it's certainly OK to be disappointed that it hasn't been updated, I wouldn't call someone "lazy" for not doing so.

[chk071]

Sylenth1 is a synthesizer that was released in 2007 with much less popularity now than in previous years. Can't imagine it's generating a lot of purchase revenue these days. Of course it's likely that the original developer has another day job. People have to move on to other projects/jobs to make a living.

I would guess so. Can't imagine you can live 15 years of sales of a single plugin.

[vurt]

Sylenth1 is a synthesizer that was released in 2007 with much less popularity now than in previous years. Can't imagine it's generating a lot of purchase revenue these days. Of course it's likely that the original developer has another day job. People have to move on to other projects/jobs to make a living.

I would guess so. Can't imagine you can live 15 years of sales of a single plugin.

depends how many he sold, and if he invested wisely.
remember, there weren't so many "must have" plug ins then.

not saying i know anything, just that it is possible.

[chk071]

So while it's certainly OK to be disappointed that it hasn't been updated, I wouldn't call someone "lazy" for not doing so.

That's why I put lazy in quotation marks. Just wondering about these long out times. If you recall, there was a big out time as well, before he released a 64-bit AU version.

[jamcat]

Chrome on MacOS is garbage. It will eat RAM, CPU and run slow on any OS.
It turns fans on faster than Logic on my M1.

That’s just because of all the spyware Google embeds in Chrome. Use Firefox instead.

Google is not lazy. They keep quite busy

[jens]

Sylenth1... lol... back in like '89 I was wondering what the fuss was supposed to be about (didn't even screeeam like a basterd...) but back on topic: where's my Bigtick Angelina M1 native? Dem lazy buggers!