Syntronik 2 Discussions

[OllieBoi]

Not sure what's going on. Duplicate post.

[OllieBoi]

Not sure what's going on. Duplicate post.

[OllieBoi]

Not sure what's going on. Duplicate post.

[OllieBoi]

The samplist should verify the sampling job is complete before moving on to sample another instrument. The tuner needs to work their controls before the samplist sets up, and the room maintainer needs the temperature and humidity optimized for what's getting tuned and sampled in the room. The person signing paychecks is the ultimate QA person. If people are excellent at their jobs, that's all the QA you need.
Not to mention a highly skilled player for each instrument to be sampled.

I don't know exactly how Spectrasonics currently manages/automates their sampling processes. But when recording synthesizers (as opposed to acoustic instruments,) I would think that Spectrasonics is using something like the Autosampler feature (acquired form Redmatica) that is now included in Logic's new Sampler plugin (i.e., the update to Logic's EXS24 sampler) and in Apple's Mainstage live performance app. I think this would be the most efficient way to record and autoloop thousands and thousands of mutlisampled synthesizer waveforms consistently and in a reasonable amount of time. I would be surprised if Spectrasonics is still recording each synthesizer note individually and then crossfade looping the samples one by one in Wavelab or on some ancient macOS 9 G4 computer running the outstanding "Infinity" crossfade looping program (which is what every sound developer used 30 years ago before OS X killed off Infinity). Recording and looping each synthesizer note individually in a heavily multisampled patch would be really time consuming and probably error prone.

[jinotsuh]

Just a question on the off chance you know the answer, but do you by chance know exactly how Spectrasonics currently manages/automates their sampling processes?

[OllieBoi]

Hi All,

Now that the group buy is over, can we please focus on installation issues and especially on Syntronik 1 and 2 bugs and missing features.

I would like to raise a few issues that I am hoping someone can help answer/address:

1) I think I know the answer to this. But I have read conflicting reports: Have IK released updated versions of the Syntronik 1 instruments that can be opened in the Syntronik 2 editor? I don't think this is possible (which is utterly ridiculous that IK didn't update their Syntronik 1 instruments before releasing Syntronik 2). But if it is possible, would I need to re-download All of my Syntronik instruments from the IK Product Manager to "pick up" the updated Syntronik 1 instruments? FYI, this will literally take days because the Product Manager download speed is painfully slow and keeps timing out on my 2015 quad core i7 MacBook Pro running macOS Catalina.

2) Even after reading scores of posts in this thread, I'm still not sure how to consolidate my Syntronik 1 and 2 instruments and samples. Incidentally, I didn't actually participate in the Syntronik group buy. I purchased Syntronik 1 and then when Syntronik 2 was released I was able to purchase it at a discount. I distinctly remember the Syntronik 1 installer(s) telling me that the Syntronik 1 instruments and samples (and related content) needed to be placed within a Sampletank 3 folder (even though I don't own Sampletank 3 and have never had a Sampletank 3 folder on any of my drives). And sure enough, the Syntronik 1 installer did create a Sampletank 3 folder structure and placed the Syntronik 1 content inside this newly created Sampletank 3 directory. But when I installed Syntronik 2, it created a dedicated Syntronik 2 folder outside of the Sampletank 3 folder (and did not create a Sampletank 4 directory). My question is how do I consolidate my Syntronik 1 and 2 content? FYI, I have Sampletank 4 CS which I believe was "gifted" to me by IK Multimedia for purchasing Syntronik 1 and 2. I know I didn't purchase it.

3) I am experiencing an issue when I edit and save a Syntronik 2 instrument, the updated / newly saved patch will no longer open. I receive an error message that one of the sample content files is missing. Apparently, there is a way to address this issue by moving either or both the Syntronik 1 and 2 folders. But I'm not sure how to go about this.

4) The Syntronik 2 filter envelope velocity sensitivity control is totally missing in the Syntronik 2 editor AND in the Sampletank 4 editor even though there is a dedicated filter velocity sensitivity control on the basic edit panel of Syntronik 2 instruments (i.e., on the Syntronik 2 "editors" that have a limited number of parameters and which are styled like their source hardware synthesizers). This filter velocity sensitivity control on the Syntronik 2 basic editor panel doesn't actually do anything to control the velocity sensitivity of Syntronik 2 instruments. Turning up the filter "Velocity" knob/slider raises the filter cutoff (making the instrument brighter) but doesn't actually control the filter cutoff or filter envelope amount velocity sensitivity. Basically, velocity control over the filter is completely broken in Syntronik 2 AND in Sampletank 4. (The only way to add filter velocity sensitivity to Syntronik 2 and Sampletank 4 instruments is to add a mod routing in these programs respective mod matrices.)'

5) Syntronik 2 instruments are riddled with bugs. For instance, in the "99" FM hardware synthesizer there will be Syntronik 2 instruments that mention "filter sweep" or "notch filter" etc. in their description. But after loading the instrument, there is no sweep or notch filter that has been applied. Again, the filter settings are completely broken in Syntronik 2 instruments.

If anyone has any answers to these questions or suggestions on how to fix these issues, I would greatly appreciate your help.

Thanks!

[jeffn1]

Fwiw, I backed up the zip files.

[OllieBoi]

Just a question on the off chance you know the answer, but do you by chance know exactly how Spectrasonics currently manages/automates their sampling processes?

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic. If you are, why be a tool?

If you are being sincere, then my deepest apologies. Anyway, I'm just not sure whether Spectrasonics has created their own "autosampler" utility (rather than relying on the one in Logic/Mainstage or similar). Spectrasonics must have some kind of in house "keymap" editor that they use to build their multi-velocity level / round robin / multiple articulation acoustic instruments. it would be really cool if Spectrasonics would develop that into a full-blown instrument builder and release it to the public. (Being able to currently import only a single sample per Omnisphere patch layer is really limiting bordering on silly.)

However, I'm sure Spectrasonics doesn't want to develop a full blown sampler that would have to compete with the likes of Logic's Sampler, Kontakt, HALion, and Falcon. Those are incredibly sophisticated mature programs that would be difficult to unseat.

[jinotsuh]

Just being sarcastic because of the amount of tries you had with your other post.
Why be a tool? Because you can't fix things without 'tools'.
Carry on.

[OllieBoi]

Just being sarcastic because of the amount of tries you had with your other post.
Why be a tool? Because you can't fix things without 'tools'.
Carry on.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the amount of tries" I had in my other post. (Which post exactly?) Whatever, f$ck off and go away you passive aggressive little twit (and maybe learn how to state what you actually mean rather than force people to guess what's going on in that pea brain of yours.)

[OllieBoi]

No need to pile on the insults.

[jinotsuh]

Just being sarcastic because of the amount of tries you had with your other post.
Why be a tool? Because you can't fix things without 'tools'.
Carry on.

I'm not sure what you mean by "the amount of tries" I had in my other post. (Which post exactly?) Whatever, f$ck off and go away you passive aggressive little twit (and maybe learn how to state what you actually mean rather than force people to guess what's going on in that pea brain of yours.)

That post above that you have now edited as duplicates. Learn how to use a forum, how to take a joke, and how to not sink to using personal insults dude.

[OllieBoi]

That post above that you have now edited as duplicates. Learn how to use a forum, how to take a joke, and how to not sink to using personal insults dude.

Learn how to be a decent human being rather than an infantile sarcastic jerkoff.

[jinotsuh]

I'll have a think about it, hmmmmmm, Nah

[OllieBoi]

I'll have a think about it, hmmmmmm, Nah

Right, because it's so much more rewarding being a douche.