Is virtual analog an advertising ploy?

[Pilonsky]

seeing as we are having the conversation, what have you noticed to be any particular issue, with a particular plug in?
not vagaries, but actual examples, then we have something we can chew on!

I’ve seen the way you “chew” on things, no thanks.

[vurt]

seeing as we are having the conversation, what have you noticed to be any particular issue, with a particular plug in?
not vagaries, but actual examples, then we have something we can chew on!

I’ve seen the way you “chew” on things, no thanks.

i like you

[whyterabbyt]

i like you

yeah, i'd heard you were... close.

growing in me

[vurt]

i like you

yeah, i'd heard you were... close.

growing in me

pfft, for that, they just need to be willing, i dont have to like em...

[Unaspected]

*suspicious*



You're alright.

I think everything that needs to be said has already been written. It's not really something you need to worry about. Trust your ears. As long as you understand the tools that you are using and how to apply them, that's all that matters.

Surely you have a Chris Prat video to communicate that?

[Pilonsky]

*suspicious*



You're alright.

I think everything that needs to be said has already been written. It's not really something you need to worry about. Trust your ears. As long as you understand the tools that you are using and how to apply them, that's all that matters.

Surely you have a Chris Prat video to communicate that?

There he is

[skonghi]

Virtual analog emulation comes close to hardware but they are not the same. Not even two pieces of the same analog equipment sound exactly alike. Virtual analog is like a snapshot of the real stuff, and sometimes has a better workflow than the modeled gear. In a loud busy mix is almost impossible to tell if someone used good analog emulation plugins or real gear. But to my ears, I can tell if someone is using Amplitube or a real guitar amp if no other instruments are playing along.

The only problem with the “you can’t tell the difference in a mix”, or the “average listener can’t tell the difference” logic is that if that is the case, then why use one instrument over another? Why not get a $30 keyboard at Walmart mart and make your tracks with that?

That's exactly my point. It all comes down to strategy. If you're recording music using only a $30 Walmart keyboard to make all the sounds you'll probably end up with an unprofessional sounding song. But let's say you already have a nice sounding track that's missing some secondary key strokes. Maybe the $30 keyboard can do the job, specially if you process it with some modulation and saturation. Making professionally sounding tracks is more about the producer/engineer than the gear itself, but good gear helps saving time and effort, that's for sure.

[zerocrossing]

you don't agree?

That's Chris Pratt playing the obtuse Andy in Parks and Recreation.

i think you'll find, it's star lord, ready for a court appearance.

you don't agree?

That's Chris Pratt playing the obtuse Andy in Parks and Recreation.

Sorry I’m not really into Chris Pratt

*suspicious*



You're alright.

I think everything that needs to be said has already been written. It's not really something you need to worry about. Trust your ears. As long as you understand the tools that you are using and how to apply them, that's all that matters.

[vurt]

yay! emmet! now everything is awesome!

[Unaspected]

Surely you have a Chris Prat video to communicate that?

There he is

Welcome to the forum, by the way.

Unfortunately, this reference is lost on me. Though he looks like some kind of foreman and probably knows how to use his tools.

Don't tell vurt.

*hides*

[CapnLockheed]

Lovely thread! So very KVR....LOL!!

[Pilonsky]

Surely you have a Chris Prat video to communicate that?

There he is

Welcome to the forum, by the way.


Thanks, I feel like I just got jumped into a gang!

[Pilonsky]

Virtual analog emulation comes close to hardware but they are not the same. Not even two pieces of the same analog equipment sound exactly alike. Virtual analog is like a snapshot of the real stuff, and sometimes has a better workflow than the modeled gear. In a loud busy mix is almost impossible to tell if someone used good analog emulation plugins or real gear. But to my ears, I can tell if someone is using Amplitube or a real guitar amp if no other instruments are playing along.

The only problem with the “you can’t tell the difference in a mix”, or the “average listener can’t tell the difference” logic is that if that is the case, then why use one instrument over another? Why not get a $30 keyboard at Walmart mart and make your tracks with that?

That's exactly my point. It all comes down to strategy. If you're recording music using only a $30 Walmart keyboard to make all the sounds you'll probably end up with an unprofessional sounding song. But let's say you already have a nice sounding track that's missing some secondary key strokes. Maybe the $30 keyboard can do the job, specially if you process it with some modulation and saturation. Making professionally sounding tracks is more about the producer/engineer than the gear itself, but good gear helps saving time and effort, that's for sure.

I had already given up, but since you brought it up, and I was sincerely trying to make a point, I’ll give it another shot:

You’re talking about adding a sound to a nice sounding track. What I wanna know about is the sounds you used to make the nice track! Not the last Casio sound that might be able to serve some purpose in this nice track. Tell me about the things you used to make the nice track. Cause if I got that, I don’t care about the Casio!

[vurt]

Surely you have a Chris Prat video to communicate that?

There he is

Welcome to the forum, by the way.

Unfortunately, this reference is lost on me. Though he looks like some kind of foreman and probably knows how to use his tools.

Don't tell vurt.

*hides*

it's the chris pratt trilogy, guardians, jurassic world, lego movie.
nerd heaven

[skonghi]

Virtual analog emulation comes close to hardware but they are not the same. Not even two pieces of the same analog equipment sound exactly alike. Virtual analog is like a snapshot of the real stuff, and sometimes has a better workflow than the modeled gear. In a loud busy mix is almost impossible to tell if someone used good analog emulation plugins or real gear. But to my ears, I can tell if someone is using Amplitube or a real guitar amp if no other instruments are playing along.

The only problem with the “you can’t tell the difference in a mix”, or the “average listener can’t tell the difference” logic is that if that is the case, then why use one instrument over another? Why not get a $30 keyboard at Walmart mart and make your tracks with that?

That's exactly my point. It all comes down to strategy. If you're recording music using only a $30 Walmart keyboard to make all the sounds you'll probably end up with an unprofessional sounding song. But let's say you already have a nice sounding track that's missing some secondary key strokes. Maybe the $30 keyboard can do the job, specially if you process it with some modulation and saturation. Making professionally sounding tracks is more about the producer/engineer than the gear itself, but good gear helps saving time and effort, that's for sure.

I had already given up, but since you brought it up, and I was sincerely trying to make a point, I’ll give it another shot:

You’re talking about adding a sound to a nice sounding track. What I wanna know about is the sounds you used to make the nice track! Not the last Casio sound that might be able to serve some purpose in this nice track. Tell me about the things you used to make the nice track. Cause if I got that, I don’t care about the Casio!

The truth is I'd probably never use a $30 Casio to make a solo lead or anything that's upfront in the mix. But I might spend $150 on a good software synth like Diva if I don't have $700 to spend on a Moog Mother-32 hardware for example. Here's a comparison between them