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zvenx wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:34 pmI am yet to be impressed by an Arturia synth sorry. (and I own Pigments)
I also tried the sonicprojects one.. nope..not impressed at all either..
I don't know what it takes to impress you, or what your expectations are (or whether your expectations are even realistic! ;)).

Charlie Clouser over on GS dug out his Prophet VS and Matrix 12 hardware and did blind A:Bs with the Arturia ones with custom patches. At least on those examples, I can't see how anyone would say the software sounds nothing like the hardware (of course, they will anyway, we all know that...)

I also thought OP-X Pro sounded great (with a terrible interface of course!).
I could make music and great sounds on all of them... although I don't really like Pigments, it's just not my bag...

Softube's modelling seems to be pretty good, but echoing others I would have preferred something a bit more interesting for me than another SH-101 (a budget synth from back in the day I never really liked much - but it was cheap, so...) but I appreciate for some folks, the sound of that synth defines the genres of music they like, and it's up to Softube what they want to model of course.

I kind of feel Softube are getting their feet wet with modelling fairly simple synths, and as they get better at it, moving upwards to more challenging ones - they've got a massive collection of FX plugins, so it seems it's early days for their plans for instruments which seems a good area for growing the catalog...

I hope they don't sepia tone the interfaces of *everything* though...

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I did see and hear the CC thing on VI-Control. (I think I even commented on the thread)

https://vi-control.net/community/posts/5111385/bookmark

https://vi-control.net/community/posts/5112018/bookmark



But the Prophet VS was never a synth I craved for, so even if the Arturia one was spot on (I think the way he does it, it makes it harder to spot the difference (he does one bar of each back to back), though his point may be in a busy mix you really can't spot the difference) would I want to buy it.

The Matrix 12 though was one I was interested in the hardware back in its glory days, and for sure when Arturia had their $149 special for Pigments users a few months ago, it was one of those that I did demo, even at $149 I didn't buy the bunch of them. I never tried it in a mix, I played around with it alone, which is always my first step in demoing any instrument (hardware or software).

But I do think you are right and Softube are working themselves up to more complex emulations indeed.

rsp
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I also have the TAL Bassline which I don't use very often. But I'll definitely have a look at Softube, you can never have enough good synth :P

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No ability to play poly, gonna have to skip this. I already have Lush 101 which is a great sounding 101 and is polyphonic.

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zvenx wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:45 pm
electro wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:13 pm XILS synths are some of the best. Their Roland VP-330 is spot on and their Moog Polymoog is underrated and delivers some of the best pads and strings I've heard.
I don't remember which ones I have demoed over the years, but that I don't own any of them or even remember which ones I demoed.. well.
I have the same experience with XILS. I hear people say they're excellent, I try them, I think they sound fine and I don't enjoy the interface/usability so I move on. They charge premium prices but they're far from U-he/Softube/Synapse/TAL IMO.

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Ditto...
rsp
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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:38 pm
zvenx wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:45 pm
electro wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:13 pm XILS synths are some of the best. Their Roland VP-330 is spot on and their Moog Polymoog is underrated and delivers some of the best pads and strings I've heard.
I don't remember which ones I have demoed over the years, but that I don't own any of them or even remember which ones I demoed.. well.
I have the same experience with XILS. I hear people say they're excellent, I try them, I think they sound fine and I don't enjoy the interface/usability so I move on. They charge premium prices but they're far from U-he/Softube/Synapse/TAL IMO.
I picked up PolyKB and Syn'X v2 during sales and I'm quite happy with them. Especially PolyKB has a pretty nice, full sound. It's cool to have an emulation of such a rare synth even if it might not be 100% spot on. If they lowered their prices and dropped the dongle requirements they'd probably sell a lot better.
Take a single oscillator, producing a drone. Send it to the wave shaper, altering the tone.
This can be a triangle, Sawtooth or a square. Modulate the pulse width, nobody will care

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XILS prices are ridiculous. Especially given how crappy the UIs are on pretty much all their synths.

As for Model-82 -- really digging it so far. The 'drive' knob really makes things sound <cough> analog <cough>.

This sounds as good as the other 'model' synths, Softube are at the top of the game IMHO.

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mholloway wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:06 pm ....

This sounds as good as the other 'model' synths, Softube are at the top of the game IMHO.
Agreed...(though not sure why they really need that long ass name)


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zvenx wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:52 pm Someone mentioned an MS-20 here, but aren't other people saying the new Arturia MS-20 is fantastic?
Yes people are praising the Arturia MS-20 but honestly although the filters are nice and dirty, I don't know what they are talking about. It doesn't have any of the punch or brightness of the real thing. I can put up with some of their other emulations but I really love the real MS-20 and the Arturia one just does not do it justice imo.

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Albeit sounding outstanding, it also serves the purpose of filling Modular. Sneaky bastards...
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Echoes in the Attic wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:26 pm ....... I can put up with some of their other emulations but I really love the real MS-20 and the Arturia one just does not do it justice imo.
ooh ooh, the Arturia fans will take you to the back and Tar you.
rsp
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zvenx wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:38 pm
Echoes in the Attic wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:26 pm ....... I can put up with some of their other emulations but I really love the real MS-20 and the Arturia one just does not do it justice imo.
ooh ooh, the Arturia fans will take you to the back and Tar you.
rsp
Yeah I know but all you gotta do is demo it and then watch any youtube video of even the Behringer K2 (a clone of Ms-20), to see how much better even that sounds! I'm a V Collection 6 owner, and I quite like many of the instruments, especially the digital ones, and one or two analogs like the Buchla and Synthi (don't own this one yet). I'd like to upgrade to V9 but the MS-20 is a massive disappointment. Not sure how anyone could use it who's used to the real thing, or a clone of the real thing.

So I would absolutely love a Softube MS-20. The sound of their analog synth plugins are amazing, including the Korg filter clone the Korgasmatron. So I thought maybe that model, plus their experience with modular, would get them well on their way to an MS-20 clone. I find that the Korgasmatron can sound quite close to the MS-20 filters.

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sQeetz wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:29 pm Albeit sounding outstanding, it also serves the purpose of filling Modular. Sneaky bastards...
If I was to see something missing in Modular, I would go and buy it. OCD is a bitch and they know it...
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sQeetz wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:47 pm
sQeetz wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 6:29 pm Albeit sounding outstanding, it also serves the purpose of filling Modular. Sneaky bastards...
If I was to see something missing in Modular, I would go and buy it. OCD is a bitch and they know it...
wow.

I was ten minutes ago looking at the overstayer, their reverb, their parallel and their statement lead and bass, none of which I own or really interested in, and tryiing to see if I really should buy them for that very same reason..... fortunately I really really don't need them and I don't like the sound of their parallel and their statement lead and bass or whatever they are called.... (thus far).

rsp
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