Whats your favorite plugin you use to make things sound satisfyingly "analog" ?
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- KVRAF
- 3086 posts since 4 May, 2012
I don't really have a favourite plugin that captures the sound of hardware units - there are too many. I really appreciate the work of Luca Capozzi of "Audiority" and Reimund Dratwa of "Fuse Audio Labs" (Neold, Black Box Analog Design, Black Rooster Audio, etc.) with regards to tone and pleasing saturation/distortion.
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- 35517 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
I ring-modulate everything with some early Merzbow.
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You can model different types of analogue distortion with algorithms in software. But as a medium, pure digital doesn’t do distortion, it stays clean and sterile until you fill all the bits. Then it just clips.Teksonik wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:01 pmYet you claim to accomplish all of that with digital plugins, DAWs etc....you're chasing analog with digital.jamcat wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:00 amDigital can’t do distortion, it only does clipping and you don’t want any of that. But what real analog distortion does, not as an effect, but rather as a byproduct of a dynamic performance that pushes the console as the singer hits a high note, conveys energy and excitement. This is what I’m looking for from “analogue.”
This is precisely why you need analogue modeling in the digital domain.
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So in other words what you're trying to do is impossible.jamcat wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:53 pmYou can model different types of analogue distortion with algorithms in software. But as a medium, pure digital doesn’t do distortion, it just clips once you fill all the bits.Teksonik wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:01 pmYet you claim to accomplish all of that with digital plugins, DAWs etc....you're chasing analog with digital.jamcat wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:00 amDigital can’t do distortion, it only does clipping and you don’t want any of that. But what real analog distortion does, not as an effect, but rather as a byproduct of a dynamic performance that pushes the console as the singer hits a high note, conveys energy and excitement. This is what I’m looking for from “analogue.”
This is precisely why you need analogue modeling in the digital domain.
That's my point, no one "needs" analogue modeling. Some people think it's desirable some disagree.
I just don't want anyone who is new to all this madness to fall for the hype and think they should spend tons of money and time chasing the mythical analog Unicorn. It's possible create great sounding music without ever getting near the word analog in 2022.
But more power to you, if you think it works for you then party on..........
Seems like it's the old guys who should be defending analog: "things were much better back in my day" but apparently at least some of us are the ones who have less reverence for analog and more appreciation for the power we have at our disposal today. Perhaps it's just more appreciation for the progress of technology over the decades......
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- KVRAF
- 7770 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
If you’re playing a guitar, you’re either playing through an analogue amp or a digital analogue model of one. Even in 2022.
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- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
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- 111324 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
not all progress is good.Teksonik wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:12 pmSo in other words what you're trying to do is impossible.jamcat wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 4:53 pmYou can model different types of analogue distortion with algorithms in software. But as a medium, pure digital doesn’t do distortion, it just clips once you fill all the bits.Teksonik wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:01 pmYet you claim to accomplish all of that with digital plugins, DAWs etc....you're chasing analog with digital.jamcat wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 1:00 amDigital can’t do distortion, it only does clipping and you don’t want any of that. But what real analog distortion does, not as an effect, but rather as a byproduct of a dynamic performance that pushes the console as the singer hits a high note, conveys energy and excitement. This is what I’m looking for from “analogue.”
This is precisely why you need analogue modeling in the digital domain.![]()
That's my point, no one "needs" analogue modeling. Some people think it's desirable some disagree.
I just don't want anyone who is new to all this madness to fall for the hype and think they should spend tons of money and time chasing the mythical analog Unicorn. It's possible create great sounding music without ever getting near the word analog in 2022.
But more power to you, if you think it works for you then party on..........![]()
Seems like it's the old guys who should be defending analog: "things were much better back in my day" but apparently at least some of us are the ones who have less reverence for analog and more appreciation for the power we have at our disposal today. Perhaps it's just more appreciation for the progress of technology over the decades......![]()
not that i disagree with the rest, id suggest however, it's possible to appreciate both, even at the same time.
both have strengths and weaknesses, and can enhance the other.
blindly removing an option, just because it's old, is the wisdom of fools.
don't like it that's fine, im not saying you have to, just to suggest that analog is bad, digital is good, is about as stupid as the people who say the opposite. like what you like, leave others to do the same, that way, we get to listen to all different kinds of music and mixes.
and that's the way it should be, there is no correct path, there are many paths that will get you there.
- addled muppet weed
- 111324 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
so analog is not non binary?donkey tugger wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2022 5:24 pmOr the other way around?
https://www.quantamagazine.org/physicis ... -20220526/
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