Whats your favorite plugin you use to make things sound satisfyingly "analog" ?

[donkey tugger]

it's all just air particles vibrating in the end.

who needs information?

Maxwell's Demon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_demon

[vurt]

i read a book at school with that title, im assuming they're different.

re "who needs information?"

roger waters - radio kaoss.

[donkey tugger]

i read a book at school with that title, im assuming they're different.

T'was probably inspired by Maxwell's ideas on thermodynamics.

[vurt]

i read a book at school with that title, im assuming they're different.

T'was probably inspired by Maxwell's ideas on thermodynamics.

tbh, don't remember much about it
can't have been great

[jamcat]

not all progress is good.
not that i disagree with the rest, id suggest however, it's possible to appreciate both, even at the same time.
both have strengths and weaknesses, and can enhance the other.
blindly removing an option, just because it's old, is the wisdom of fools.
don't like it that's fine, im not saying you have to, just to suggest that analog is bad, digital is good, is about as stupid as the people who say the opposite. like what you like, leave others to do the same, that way, we get to listen to all different kinds of music and mixes.
and that's the way it should be, there is no correct path, there are many paths that will get you there.

This is what both BONES and Teksonik are missing. It needn’t be all or nothing. You don’t have to degrade the quality and pump up the noise floor if you don’t want. Just use the elements you want, in the amounts you want. Both of them use analogue modeled distortion, regardless of what they say.

There is also a wide range of quality to analogue gear. There’s a huge difference between a Tascam 4-track and a Neve console hooked to a Studer with 2” tape.

If the sound of digital converters really was preferable to a Neve console, then studios wouldn’t still be using those consoles today. But they still do. They may be mostly tracking to digital, but they’re still using Neve preamps for their sound. Or as a plugin developer might say, their “analogue colour.”

Even prior to the adoption of digital as a recording medium, SSL and others designed consoles to be as clean and uncoloured as possible. Specifically consoles such as the transformerless “Superanalogue” SL-9000 series. But SSLs were generally only used for mixing, while recording was done on Neve, Helios, API, and Harrison. Because even with a cleaner, more digital-like option in the bad ol’ analogue days, producers still preferred the warmth of those old consoles for laying down tracks.

[Teksonik]

blindly removing an option, just because it's old, is the wisdom of fools.

I never advocated for removing analog just the blind lust to use it.......

don't like it that's fine, im not saying you have to, just to suggest that analog is bad, digital is good, is about as stupid as the people who say the opposite.

It's only stupid if it's wrong. I never said analog is bad just that it's not better.

like what you like, leave others to do the same, that way, we get to listen to all different kinds of music and mixes.
and that's the way it should be, there is no correct path, there are many paths that will get you there.

Like I've said more than once to each his own. I'm just trying to get people to actually think for themselves and not simply buy into some fad just because it's de rigueur today.

Anyway I'm just talking smack today as I have an earache and am staying out of the studio. I need something to distract me from the horrors going on in the world right now.......

[Agreed]

Kind of a low opinion of your fellow musicians to think they must be merely chasing trends and have no reasoning behind their choices. I reckon people were already thinking for themselves more than you're giving credit for, & probably aren't in dire want of anyone to snap them out of it Each one's experience has lead them to where they are, just as with us.

Hope your earache improves teksonic, and the world, too.

[Michey]

it's all just air particles vibrating in the end.

who needs information?

Maxwell's Demon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_demon

Maxwell Smart 3

[To answer the OP : "is there anything else that you have found makes thing satisfyingly analog"]

[BONES]

This is what both BONES and Teksonik are missing. It needn’t be all or nothing.

Tell that to the fuckwits at Softube who decided the Juno chorus emulation needed to have the noise from the original. And they aren't an exception, their approach is typical. e.g. There is nothing at all in what Studio one provides to "vintage" up your mixes that should be seen as a desirable trait. It's all adding noise, not character.

You don’t have to degrade the quality and pump up the noise floor if you don’t want.

Therein lies your problem because you choose to do exactly that, thinking that you are doing something else.

Just use the elements you want, in the amounts you want. Both of them use analogue modeled distortion, regardless of what they say.

I use lots of modelled stuff but nothing that interferes with getting a good sound. Nothing that adds noise or hiss or wow and flutter or crosstalk.

There is also a wide range of quality to analogue gear. There’s a huge difference between a Tascam 4-track and a Neve console hooked to a Studer with 2” tape.

But I bet the Tascam sound is more to most people's liking.

If the sound of digital converters really was preferable to a Neve console, then studios wouldn’t still be using those consoles today.

If people weren't such f**king idiots, they'd have died a natural death years ago. But guess what?

Because even with a cleaner, more digital-like option in the bad ol’ analogue days, producers still preferred the warmth of those old consoles for laying down tracks.

No doubt for exactly the same dumbass reasons people do today. But as my dear old Mum was fond of asking, "if all your friends decided to jump off the (Sydney) Harbour Bridge, would you do it too?" Her hope, of course, was that we would apply some critical thinking to the things we did, rather than just do shit because someone else was doing it.

Kind of a low opinion of your fellow musicians to think they must be merely chasing trends and have no reasoning behind their choices.

Well, they've had every opportunity to make a convincing argument and so far they have failed rather miserably, don't you think? So if some of us have a low opinion, I think it has been earned.

[kritikon]

Have to agree with a lot of that despite using quite a few analogue synths. The recent Roland JunoX also added the chorus noise as an option. I wondered what kind of complete eejit would want that? It's an option so nobody has to use it but no sensible person actually wants that kind of interfering noise, and shouldn't want it. I couldn't use a 106 for recording with chorus on without a gate over the channel. That's just bad product. And if it was added because of user demand, then the users are fkn eejits.

I like my analogue gear but mainly in synths and for specific reasons, but I don't want to go back to analogue FX or analogue recording. There are too many obvious advantages of digital. I like a hands-on mixer far more than a DAW for mixing...I just hate using a mouse for anything prolonged and detailed. But if I do go back to that route I'll probably get a digital mixer. There are some attractions to an analogue mixer but the crosstalk, noise and distortion are definitely NOT amongst them.

As already mentioned, anyone old enough to have used all analogue gear in the past spent an inordinate amount of time, effort and money to get clean recordings. That's the only reason we bought more expensive gear. It was the only reason I bought expensive mixers. If you buy analogue gear for its specific sonic character that's fine. If you buy it for noise, wow and flutter, crosstalk, I think you're really quite silly. Same goes for buying plug-ins that imitate the bad side of analogue.

I'm a die-hard fan of analogue synths, but there really is a lot of guff talked about analogue. Cheap tape sounded shite. Good tape sounded quite good precisely because it was clean and had more affinity with digital. Studios really did not buy flashy 2" tape recorders because it saturated nicely, they bought because it sounded the cleanest. Really, truly, undisputably.

[Goony]

Wether you agree or disagree is pointless, that chorus noise on the Juno's was and is still part of its character.

[Leo1999]

I like Waves CLA comps, there are two analog buttons, engaged they more or less add hiss noise LOL
But Waves also has some noise supression plugins, so the noise can be deleted again this way you have analog sound with no noise

[jackoo]

any plugin that can adjust the gain / level.

[foosnark]

The recent Roland JunoX also added the chorus noise as an option. I wondered what kind of complete eejit would want that? It's an option so nobody has to use it but no sensible person actually wants that kind of interfering noise, and shouldn't want it.

Your favorite band sucks too, buddy.

Music is not about being "sensible" anyway.

I recently got a Dreadbox Antidote module. It's supposedly "Karplus-Strong Strings" but it's based on a dirty BBD delay with the same chip the 106 chorus used, and can be used as a resonator, slapback, chorus, etc. Just running a signal through it with no modulation adds a pleasant amount of noise and character and for sure I'll be using it for that purpose on occasion.

[vurt]

This is what both BONES and Teksonik are missing. It needn’t be all or nothing.

Tell that to the fuckwits at Softube who decided the Juno chorus emulation needed to have the noise from the original. And they aren't an exception, their approach is typical. e.g. There is nothing at all in what Studio one provides to "vintage" up your mixes that should be seen as a desirable trait. It's all adding noise, not character.

You don’t have to degrade the quality and pump up the noise floor if you don’t want.

Therein lies your problem because you choose to do exactly that, thinking that you are doing something else.

Just use the elements you want, in the amounts you want. Both of them use analogue modeled distortion, regardless of what they say.

I use lots of modelled stuff but nothing that interferes with getting a good sound. Nothing that adds noise or hiss or wow and flutter or crosstalk.

There is also a wide range of quality to analogue gear. There’s a huge difference between a Tascam 4-track and a Neve console hooked to a Studer with 2” tape.

But I bet the Tascam sound is more to most people's liking.

If the sound of digital converters really was preferable to a Neve console, then studios wouldn’t still be using those consoles today.

If people weren't such f**king idiots, they'd have died a natural death years ago. But guess what?

Because even with a cleaner, more digital-like option in the bad ol’ analogue days, producers still preferred the warmth of those old consoles for laying down tracks.

No doubt for exactly the same dumbass reasons people do today. But as my dear old Mum was fond of asking, "if all your friends decided to jump off the (Sydney) Harbour Bridge, would you do it too?" Her hope, of course, was that we would apply some critical thinking to the things we did, rather than just do shit because someone else was doing it.

Kind of a low opinion of your fellow musicians to think they must be merely chasing trends and have no reasoning behind their choices.

Well, they've had every opportunity to make a convincing argument and so far they have failed rather miserably, don't you think? So if some of us have a low opinion, I think it has been earned.

silence is unnatural.
it is unsettling to me.
so i fill the space, with "air". not " noise" although it is often noise, it's more about what it represents to me.

that said, im not making music, i do art. by which i mean, im creating scenes not songs. i just use audio to do it.

and i don't do what the other boys do, don't do that, weak argument.