I remember when they came out and I thought "I should get one of those." Then I realized that I just don't use the over-valued hardware that I already have.chk071 wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:57 am I think it was 299 € when it was originally sold. Street price at some point probably 250 €.
That they sell it used now for 100 € more, or even more than that, just shows how sick the used prices are. Never ever will I pay that for such a limited synth, especially when it has signs of wear.
The bitter pill is that some will pay such prices, thus will declare that they're absolutely fine with such prices.
Softube Model 82
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- KVRAF
- 16724 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
- KVRAF
- 3812 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
It has trance elements for sure, but also electro house and techno, and this changes from track to track. And like other artists like Orbital, Underworld he's really got his own style that he's evolved over time. He's been pretty prolific and has some really amazingly crafted tracks.BONES wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:55 amIs Deadmau5's stuff not Tarnce? What is it, then and why is it not Tarnce? (The spelling is an old KVR joke, for those who may not remember.)vertibration wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:40 amFrom a production quality standpoint, take Deadmau5 for example. Love him or hate him, his music has superb production quality. Last I checked he is running everything through a Neve console with everything in Dolby. So my only real question is, what artists in Trance are putting out high level production quality music right now?
I was fortunate enough to see him at Brixton Academy on Friday last week and his set was really banging, much more like an underground club vibe. He started with a half hour of pretty hard techno before moving into some his own tracks. Really pretty epic show with some really great visuals.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Could have bought it anyway, and sell it for a riduclous price later.ghettosynth wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:03 amI remember when they came out and I thought "I should get one of those." Then I realized that I just don't use the over-valued hardware that I already have.chk071 wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:57 am I think it was 299 € when it was originally sold. Street price at some point probably 250 €.
That they sell it used now for 100 € more, or even more than that, just shows how sick the used prices are. Never ever will I pay that for such a limited synth, especially when it has signs of wear.
The bitter pill is that some will pay such prices, thus will declare that they're absolutely fine with such prices.
It's actually something I considered a few times. Even I don't use the stuff much in the end, in times like these, when Behringer or another company stops to produce it, you can always sell it for 100, 200, 300 € more than what you actually bought it for new.
On the other hand, I'm not sure if I really have the character to rip other people off. I believe in a fair deal, and, this isn't fair. Well, for one side, it's fair. More than fair.
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- 3812 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
repost this with both cds. Old trance, banging uplifting, not cheesy.
Definitely some 101 going on in these tracks.
https://soundcloud.com/sebasone/paul-oa ... cream-cd-1
and disk two
https://soundcloud.com/sebasone/paul-oa ... ream-cd2-1
Definitely some 101 going on in these tracks.
https://soundcloud.com/sebasone/paul-oa ... cream-cd-1
and disk two
https://soundcloud.com/sebasone/paul-oa ... ream-cd2-1
- KVRAF
- 3812 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
I agree it's really great. I think the secret sauce is in the filter envelope, and adding the right distortion is just ++++.Vortifex wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:06 am The comments under that new Dash Glitch video baffle me. "A step backwards" "A poor attempt at the sound of a 101", I mean really? Sure as hell sounds like a 101 to me. At the very least, it's close enough to not matter. Artists that I know who actually release music are not spending their time comparing waveforms in oscilloscopes. In fact most don't even care if software emulations are all that accurate, they just care if it sounds good to them or not, seeing as most of them have never even played the synths being emulated.
I'm going to really enjoy using this.
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- 17693 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
I thought the distortion was very ordinary, like they'd just put Saturation Knob in there. On the few presets I tried to use it on it was either too subtle or too full-on and not sounding very good. Or maybe it's just there for that stupid, done to death a thousand times over, acid bassline sound?
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
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- KVRAF
- 1863 posts since 11 Apr, 2008
Remember that we're talking about reverb.comchk071 wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:57 am I think it was 299 € when it was originally sold. Street price at some point probably 250 €.
That they sell it used now for 100 € more, or even more than that, just shows how sick the used prices are. Never ever will I pay that for such a limited synth, especially when it has signs of wear.
The bitter pill is that some will pay such prices, thus will declare that they're absolutely fine with such prices.
- GRRRRRRR!
- 17693 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
It sounds cheesy as hell to me, all trance-gates and arps._leras wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:10 amrepost this with both cds. Old trance, banging uplifting, not cheesy. Definitely some 101 going on in these tracks.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
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Fernando Carvalho Fernando Carvalho https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=31855
- KVRist
- 208 posts since 5 Jul, 2004
I'm really liking this model 82. I have only touched a real 101 barely, a friend has one. I like the limited architecture somehow, even the just mono nature. It sounds very good to me and the sounds I get are more diverse than I thought. Loving the modules for Modular too. I am very happy with the purchase.
Fernando Carvalho
http://soundcloud.com/fernandocarvalho
http://soundcloud.com/fernandocarvalho
- KVRAF
- 3812 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
The distortion isn't that great, neither is the doubler. Most people would have something betterBONES wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:38 am I thought the distortion was very ordinary, like they'd just put Saturation Knob in there. On the few presets I tried to use it on it was either too subtle or too full-on and not sounding very good. Or maybe it's just there for that stupid, done to death a thousand times over, acid bassline sound?
This sent me on a distortion shootout (the things we do for fun) and out of 20 or so distortions/saturators I found a 2-3 different distortions that I thought took this synth into an Epic level.
- Banned
- 4491 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK
def. Trance
Don't trust those with words of weakness, they are the most aggressive
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Ebay Classifieds isn't much better, unfortunately.pixel85 wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:44 amRemember that we're talking about reverb.comchk071 wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:57 am I think it was 299 € when it was originally sold. Street price at some point probably 250 €.
That they sell it used now for 100 € more, or even more than that, just shows how sick the used prices are. Never ever will I pay that for such a limited synth, especially when it has signs of wear.
The bitter pill is that some will pay such prices, thus will declare that they're absolutely fine with such prices.It's a miracle that you can get it there for below €10000, now when it's not available to buy anymore
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You want to shout "People, stop buying for such insane prices!". But, it's hopeless. If people want it, right now, they will easily part with their money. You know how the saying goes, with the fool and his money.
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- KVRian
- 1191 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
Wow thats pretty cool that you got to see him. I will check out orbital and underworld_leras wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:05 amIt has trance elements for sure, but also electro house and techno, and this changes from track to track. And like other artists like Orbital, Underworld he's really got his own style that he's evolved over time. He's been pretty prolific and has some really amazingly crafted tracks.BONES wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:55 amIs Deadmau5's stuff not Tarnce? What is it, then and why is it not Tarnce? (The spelling is an old KVR joke, for those who may not remember.)vertibration wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:40 amFrom a production quality standpoint, take Deadmau5 for example. Love him or hate him, his music has superb production quality. Last I checked he is running everything through a Neve console with everything in Dolby. So my only real question is, what artists in Trance are putting out high level production quality music right now?
I was fortunate enough to see him at Brixton Academy on Friday last week and his set was really banging, much more like an underground club vibe. He started with a half hour of pretty hard techno before moving into some his own tracks. Really pretty epic show with some really great visuals.
- KVRAF
- 3812 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
I'd say summery and floaty more than cheesy. And you could say trance gates have been hugely overdone since then.
These mixes have some cracking bits of music, some great melodies and structure, and quite a lot of variety, which I think sets trance from that time apart from what came later.
This is also mostly pre-supersaw and it's not all trance gates.
