KVR Audio

skijumptoes · Post by **skijumptoes** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:55 pm

koalaboy wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:56 am That's effectively CV, and should be possible. However, a plugin should never need to know about other plugins (unless they share a codebase).

Do you mean CV as in audio pulses?

A more specific example is an LFO plugin in slot 1 than can read and modulate the (VST) parameters of slot 2, whilst still passing the audio through the chain.

CV method would require the slave plugin to be capable of reacting to CV, plus how would the underlying audio of the track transport through?

All plugins have a parameter list, it's more the ability of being able to publish that list to the preceding slot. Which opens up a huge array of modulation options.

koalaboy · Post by **koalaboy** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:58 pm

See the responses by baconpaul. They're the best answer.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:03 pm

Today I realized that I can use Bitwig modulators and the u-he CLAP synths (currently ACE, Diva and Hive) to apply per voice modulation only to specific notes in a midi clip, with the other notes unaffected even if overlapping... very cool!

Obsolete187521 · Post by **Obsolete187521** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:53 pm

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xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:55 pm

pdxindy wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:03 pm Today I realized that I can use Bitwig modulators and the u-he CLAP synths (currently ACE, Diva and Hive) to apply per voice modulation only to specific notes in a midi clip, with the other notes unaffected even if overlapping... very cool!

not played too much with it (yet) but I've seen that MIDI-Channel can work together with Select-4 is there any other method?

baconpaul · Post by **baconpaul** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:13 pm

pdxindy wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:03 pm Today I realized that I can use Bitwig modulators and the u-he CLAP synths (currently ACE, Diva and Hive) to apply per voice modulation only to specific notes in a midi clip, with the other notes unaffected even if overlapping... very cool!

surge too!

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:20 pm

xbitz wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:55 pm
pdxindy wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:03 pm Today I realized that I can use Bitwig modulators and the u-he CLAP synths (currently ACE, Diva and Hive) to apply per voice modulation only to specific notes in a midi clip, with the other notes unaffected even if overlapping... very cool!
not played too much with it (yet) but I've seen that MIDI-Channel can work together with Select-4 is there any other method?

Yeah, Channel-16 modulating the strength of any per voice modulator. Today I was using ParSeq-8 but it could be random, etc.

perpetual3 · Post by **perpetual3** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:24 pm

wuworld wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:35 am I'm more confident in established companies that have been in the market for the while when it comes to this like Steinberg or Avid. Too many resources, and time wasted trying to do all these "standard formats".

Having been in this business for over 10 years and a couple of movies during that time, I can safely say that I feel the exact opposite of you.

trackbout · Post by **trackbout** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:43 pm

It is amazing that anyone imagines being older or larger makes a company more trustworthy or more competent.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:58 pm

They've proven they can survive for longer than a few quarters. Personally, I would trust a company more that's been through a few recessions with anything I might rely on long-term. Especially now.

Vagusuk · Post by **Vagusuk** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:59 pm

I'm a bit late to this, but...

Soundwide CEO Mark Cattini has proudly spoken of the company’s aims, stating, “Going forward, we’re asking ourselves: ‘What do our community members need to tap into their ultimate creative workflow and how can we help get them there?.’ By first uncovering and understanding our community’s needs, we can map out our goals and move one step closer to the future of sound.”

So, I work in software development (designer, not developer), as well as marketing, and I can tell you this was written by the PR agency or internal PR team. It has no grounding in reality, though. It's messaging for the sake of it, and I don't believe for a moment that Mark Cattini believes what he's saying. If he did, he'd make sure NI were talking about CLAP, because it's an alternative to being locked into the Steinberg trap that's hurt them so much.

The community has been very clear, for a number of years, and yet this wasn't posted to the NI blog at all. I actually believe they spend more money on their blogs in different countries than development, sometimes -compare NI France YT account to anywhere else versus the N.American 'check out this hip hop artists favourite presets - for instance.

I think CLAP is a great idea, and as I've said on the NI forums- if NI don't start moving quickly on Komplete Kontrol VST3 and scalable UI for at least that program, I'll, recreate it, and an alternative to NKS.

Changing the scaling of KK is simple CSS, so Christ knows why NI haven't done this. Of course, Kontakt instances might be lower resolution, but that's a different problem.

NKS is fundamentally a good idea, but their handling of NKS has been poor. That's the key reason I have so much NI stuff. But they aren't listening to their community after a pick-up last year. All has gone quiet again, and it's about selling product rather than selling more product by giving the community what they've been asking for, for years.

I can tell you for a fact, if I need to create an alternative to KK, I'll have CLAP integration from the early stages.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:01 pm

Yeah, you work in marketing alright.

vertibration · Post by **vertibration** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:23 pm

Vagusuk wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2022 7:59 pm It has no grounding in reality, though. It's messaging for the sake of it, and I don't believe for a moment that Mark Cattini believes what he's saying. If he did, he'd make sure NI were talking about CLAP, because it's an alternative to being locked into the Steinberg trap that's hurt them so much.

Um....no. You literally have no clue about the intentions of NI, or any insider knowledge

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:50 pm

Why would any CEO tell his marketing teams to talk inside baseball or air company dirty laundry to customers? That would be a super bad CEO. 99% of customers don't know and don't care about this stuff. They just want VST3 and M1 versions, not more distractions.

Vagusuk · Post by **Vagusuk** » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:56 pm

I do have 20 years knowledge of marketing, and what he's saying there does not tie in with their actions. You're welcome to DM me for my linkedin (and thanks for the warm welcome Jamcat and Vetibration).

I'm currently the COO of a US PR agency, the COO of a data and outreach platform in the videogames industry, and the founder and trustee of a mental health charity.

As per your mention of me having no clue about the inner workings of NI or any insider knowledge - that's Mario, and he's incredibly helpful externally and on the NI forums.

Nice to see such a welcoming community. Shall we get back on topic - which is CLAP.

CLAP: The New Audio Plug-in Standard (by U-he, Bitwig and others)