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chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:13 am

... you'll need them for your eLicenser products potentially being updated to work with Steinberg Licensing.

Just updated my Wavelab Elements 11 accordingly. I got an email from Steinberg, saying that I can update to Wavelab (Elements) 11.1, which is using Steinberg Licensing. Clicking on the link, I got a coupon code which I could use in the Steinberg Download Assistant. Using that Download Access Code opened the eLicenser software where I could upgrade my Wavelab Elements 11 eLicenser license to a Steinberg Licensing license. Worked Ok, and now I have a Wavelab Elements Steinberg Licensing license.

Blaster · Post by **Blaster** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:44 pm

Yes, but this was the same for Cubase 12...

DNnX · Post by **DNnX** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:57 pm

I bought Cubase 11 with free 12 upgrade.
I needed USB-eLicenser activation to get 12 license.
After I upgraded to 12, 11 licence was replaced to non upgradable one.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:51 pm

I won't trash it! It's a souvenir from the past life

mothra · Post by **mothra** » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:34 pm

Yeah I'd hang onto it just in case. If you happen to run across any old projects you haven't converted yet, you'll need the dongle to run SX3 to convert them. I just bought Wavelab Pro yesterday while it was on sale and everything goes right to the new activation system now, didn't need the dongle at all. I wonder if they'll eventually put out an update for 11 and migrate it so they can finally shut off the eLicenser servers once and for all.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:16 pm

I just updated to 11.1 and now it says I don't have a licence even though I can see it on my USB Dongle. Wtf?

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:22 pm

Says here 'you can continue using your old license as before:

https://helpcenter.steinberg.de/hc/en-u ... O0I-ZJFQM3

So why isn't it recognising it now?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:26 pm

Should work, unless you already initiated the upgrade to a Steinberg Licensing license (the eLicenser license shows a "Upgraded to Steinberg Licensing" then).

If it doesn't, I'd shoot Steinberg a message.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:31 pm

No I haven't - not interested, was trying to avoid complications (ironically)

Send a support request but this is a pain, it won't let me open it

nathanj · Post by **nathanj** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:23 am

theoretically, could one sell their vouchers?

skijumptoes · Post by **skijumptoes** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:13 am

nathanj wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:23 am theoretically, could one sell their vouchers?

The license on the e-licenser is taken off, and replaced with a NFR "not for resale" version, this needs to happen to complete the process.

So you could only pass the voucher code on to someone who has the old version on their e-licenser, but they've probably got a voucher code already - so a bit pointless.

You could physically sell the full version you redeem on Steinberg Licensing and carry on using the older version on your e-licenser. But I think this goes against licensing agreement:

"eLicenser-based licenses that have been upgraded to a Steinberg Licensing license may not be sold separately from the corresponding Steinberg Licensing license."

It would be the reversal of that statement as you would be selling the Steinberg Licensed item. But I guess the rule still applies (?!).

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:13 pm

But I could keep the dongle for one computer and authorize a different one? Until now I had to carry a dongle if I wanted to work abroad on a laptop…

pixel85 · Post by **pixel85** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:17 am

Tj Shredder wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:13 pm But I could keep the dongle for one computer and authorize a different one? Until now I had to carry a dongle if I wanted to work abroad on a laptop…

Yes, but when you get C12, you can use it on two computers, so no need to keep elicenser on any of them. Just install C12 on both.
I still keep C11 and elicenser on a desktop just because some HALion libraries need it and just in case if C12 would become buggy for some reason. I always keep previous version of Cubase as a backup.

skijumptoes · Post by **skijumptoes** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:40 am

pixel85 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:17 am Yes, but when you get C12, you can use it on two computers, so no need to keep elicenser on any of them. Just install C12 on both.

For clarity, you can actually have the new licensing activated on three machines at once (per license).

pixel85 · Post by **pixel85** » Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:34 pm

skijumptoes wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:40 am
pixel85 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 6:17 am Yes, but when you get C12, you can use it on two computers, so no need to keep elicenser on any of them. Just install C12 on both.
For clarity, you can actually have the new licensing activated on three machines at once (per license).

Oh nice. I didn't knew that they updated this policy.

Don't trash your USB e-Licensers just yet...