Could Artruia or Focusrite enter the DAW market?

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wuworld wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:33 amSounds like you are out of touch with modern workflow's and the benefits of the hardware, and what it can do with integrated software. Focusrite has purchased Adams, sequential etc. At this point I think they should buy a company who makes a DAW.
Exactly my point.
They buy existing companies, but do not innovate with new products.
Focusrite already owns the Novation SL MkIII DAW controller.
Do we really need a Sequential Prophet that controls, say... Reaper?
Is that really an improvement?
Or is it a "modern workflow" that makes us servants of technology, once again.
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Michael L wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:02 am
wuworld wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:33 amSounds like you are out of touch with modern workflow's and the benefits of the hardware, and what it can do with integrated software. Focusrite has purchased Adams, sequential etc. At this point I think they should buy a company who makes a DAW.
Exactly my point.
They buy existing companies, but do not innovate with new products.
Focusrite already owns the Novation SL MkIII DAW controller.
Do we really need a Sequential Prophet that controls, say... Reaper?
Is that really an improvement?
Or is it a "modern workflow" that makes us servants of technology, once again.
You miss my point completely. Focusrite could build one or buy a company that makes one. Both Focusrite or Arturia could build a DAW period. Whether you think they innovate or not. From what your saying, they probably aren't targeting the music you make anyway. So it's going to appeal to plenty of people, outside what you expect on what innovation is in today's music or how a DAW should be made.

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martinjuenke wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:53 pm
wuworld wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:07 pm I always thought that Focusrite could be a company who has a DAW
Good guess.
They recently released a plugin suite aimed at fast mixing which is imo quite good. That may be a hint for their plans...
Imagine they hire people in creating a DAW. Taking features from Live, Studio One etc. Then integrating that with it's keyboard, pad controllers, and interfaces. Pretty appealing.

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Michael L wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:02 am
wuworld wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:33 amSounds like you are out of touch with modern workflow's and the benefits of the hardware, and what it can do with integrated software. Focusrite has purchased Adams, sequential etc. At this point I think they should buy a company who makes a DAW.
Exactly my point.
They buy existing companies, but do not innovate with new products.
Focusrite already owns the Novation SL MkIII DAW controller.
Do we really need a Sequential Prophet that controls, say... Reaper?
Is that really an improvement?
Or is it a "modern workflow" that makes us servants of technology, once again.
Also, it doesn't have to be innovative. Some users just want a simple workflow for both mac, and pc. That's not to cluttered.

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Michael L wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:54 pm Why?
What major improvement could either of them offer to DAWorld?
viewtopic.php?t=568791
I think there's still space for a simple easy to use DAW. From what I read, Orion used to be something like that. Maybe there's a niche on the market still open for that.

On the other hand, again, it's a gamble, and, there's not much to win but a lot to lose. I'm pretty sure neither of these two companies will be releasing a DAW in the next 10 years.

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chk071 wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:26 pmI think there's still space for a simple easy to use DAW. From what I read, Orion used to be something like that. Maybe there's a niche on the market still open for that.
I don't think there is a market for a necro DAW -- people want "new"
There are already plenty of simple DAWs like MuLab, Tracktion, Mixcraft, Mixbus and the cut-down versions of the BIG DAWs
My point is simply that successful DAWs start with an innovative 'disruptive' vision . . . but making it usable is quite difficult-- as you can see by the huge number of unused DAWs on the market: viewtopic.php?t=568791
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Disruptive is rare. Generally, it's about meeting a need. If you can find one that's not filled, then you have a chance. And personally, I don't think of those DAWs just mentioned are particularly simple. Perhaps not as feature-bloated, but hardly simple.

What I'd like to see is a recording DAW that all you need to do is run it and start playing. Automatically recording everything that's being played. That would be a start.

Luna has some nice features, including infinite undo/redo across sessions, but for me it's too anchored in the Pro Tools mentality. Understandable given the audience, but unfortunate by my tastes. The GUI isn't scalable which surprised me a lot given that it's brand new. And we can argue UA's policies, but their stuff sounds very good.

https://www.macworld.com/article/233814 ... eview.html

Back to the original topic. DAWs are extremely complex and very time-consuming to develop. Lots of money. Where's the Behringer DAW? Long past the due date at this point with no mention.

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Arturia or Focusrite should buy the code for Project5 and modernize it for PC and Mac. Boom, instant (re-)innovation. Done. :tu:
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