CLAP... thoughts?

[fisherKing]

Why not create a dedicated CLAP forum section, so CLAP threads can go there, instead of having multiple threads spread all across different parts of KVR ?

overkill? it's not like there's a vst2 forum, a vst3 forum, an au forum, an aax forum. s

Perhaps not a forum section for CLAP alone (that may be a bit too specific for a whole section of its own) but one for "Plugin Formats" where then also all the VST2/3, CAT, etc. discussions could be collected? Might still be too specific, though. Maybe one about "Communication Protocols" or "Infrastructure" under which then also things like MIDI, OSC, NKS etc. would fall. But there's also already the "Computer Setup..." section which would presumably overlap a lot with such a thing.

that's NOT my quote (just pointing it out); the second part IS...

we're discussing plugins here, why should there be yet another forum for formats? i think the idea would be not to have one subject spread over too many forums...

[Hink]

Why not create a dedicated CLAP forum section, so CLAP threads can go there, instead of having multiple threads spread all across different parts of KVR ?

overkill? it's not like there's a vst2 forum, a vst3 forum, an au forum, an aax forum. s

Perhaps not a forum section for CLAP alone (that may be a bit too specific for a whole section of its own) but one for "Plugin Formats" where then also all the VST2/3, CAT, etc. discussions could be collected? Might still be too specific, though. Maybe one about "Communication Protocols" or "Infrastructure" under which then also things like MIDI, OSC, NKS etc. would fall. But there's also already the "Computer Setup..." section which would presumably overlap a lot with such a thing.

that's NOT my quote (just pointing it out); the second part IS...

we're discussing plugins here, why should there be yet another forum for formats? i think the idea would be not to have one subject spread over too many forums...

I agree but the real issue is we have a few and really to merge them would just cause confusion I'm afraid. Things like this kinda have an evolution of their own so play it by ear...I just want to make sure the discussions dont get derailed with nonsense.

[pdxindy]

we're discussing plugins here, why should there be yet another forum for formats? i think the idea would be not to have one subject spread over too many forums...

Well, it should be spread out. It will for sure be discussed in the u-he forum and in the Bitwig forum. Then in the developers forum there is a CLAP discussion thread for developers. Those 3 should and will be there regardless.

Maybe you can say that this thread in Instruments is redundant since the one in Hosts is now the thread keeping track of CLAP releases. One possibly redundant thread in Instruments is not a lot. I figure it will fade out anyway in another week or two. The one in Hosts serves an ongoing purpose and will remain as will the 3 above.

Seems to me to be a solution without a problem

[Music Engineer]

that's NOT my quote (just pointing it out); the second part IS...

Oh - then sorry for misquoting. Yeah - I totally agree that we don't need another forum section. I was just thinking that if there would be one, then it should perhaps be broader in scope than CLAP alone. So nevermind then and sorry for perpetuating an off-topic discussion.

[pdxindy]

So nevermind then and sorry for perpetuating an off-topic discussion.

Yes, I did the same... let's get back to the topic.

Looking forward to lots of per voice modulation in RePro!

[THE INTRANCER]

Here are all the clap threads spread across KVR that I've found...that's eight, including this one.. and I've probably missed a few.

viewtopic.php?t=582950

viewtopic.php?t=574861

viewtopic.php?t=575044

viewtopic.php?t=583140

viewtopic.php?t=583222

viewtopic.php?t=583138

viewtopic.php?t=583172

viewtopic.php?t=583507

[EnGee]

Great The more, the better

[pdxindy]

Here are all the clap threads spread across KVR that I've found...that's eight, including this one.. and I've probably missed a few.

2 are in the u-he forum
2 are in the Developer forum
1 is in Bitwig's forum
1 is in no-mans land

2 are in Hosts, one which you missed which is an ongoing listing of all CLAP plugins and hosts.
and this one in Instruments.

They all make sense. Can we please move on from this topic?

[dayjob]

maybe someone should start a new thread about all the threads.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Here are all the clap threads spread across KVR that I've found...that's eight, including this one.. and I've probably missed a few.

viewtopic.php?t=582950

viewtopic.php?t=574861

viewtopic.php?t=575044

viewtopic.php?t=583140

viewtopic.php?t=583222

viewtopic.php?t=583138

viewtopic.php?t=583172

viewtopic.php?t=583507

The moaning about CLAP thread is here: viewtopic.php?t=583507

...Where this kind of post belongs. It's right there in your list. You should've known better. Please feel free to continue the "too many CLAP threads discussion" there.

[Hink]

^^^^ and pdxindy

[Kalamata Kid]

IMHO Would be great if the plugin had developer keywords for what it does.
Compressor, reverb, delay, midi fx, arp, sample based instrument, utility.
But then also allow for the user to add keywords.

CLAP already has such metadata. User keywords is something DAW should handle, not the plugin.

You are usually right about such matters however let me point out that in my opinion if it is possible it would be better if the user keywords were part of the plugin so no matter what DAW is used the keywords will be available if needed. Let the developer's and user's keywords be part of the plugin. The developer's keywords would not be editable by the user where the user's keywords will obviously be editable by the user.

[crickey13]

Here are all the clap threads spread across KVR that I've found...that's eight, including this one.. and I've probably missed a few.

Just chill out and create another constructive DAW-related thread, about DAW logos or ask why DAWs have horizontal layouts instead of vertical, I'm sure you'll think of something.

[Urs]

You are usually right about such matters however let me point out that in my opinion if it is possible it would be better if the user keywords were part of the plugin so no matter what DAW is used the keywords will be available if needed. Let the developer's and user's keywords be part of the plugin. The developer's keywords would not be editable by the user where the user's keywords will obviously be editable by the user.

The point of CLAP's metadata is that it's baked into the "outer layer" of the binary. The host can query it without actually creating an instance of the plug-in. User chosen keywords would have to be in a file somewhere, and to find that, a lot more would have to go on during the scanning process.

I wouldn't say it's impossible, but it's simply more efficient and elegant if hosts offered this kind of functionality.

[SeBaer]

[...] ask why DAWs have horizontal layouts instead of vertical [...]

Ooooh, haven't you heard of MOD-trackers?

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