One Synth Challenge #160: ADLplug / OPNplug by jpcima (ZioMau Wins!)

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As I understand it the two aren't basically the same are they? OPN was much better for drums. ADL was otherwise better. But I could never get OPN to show up in Reaper.

This is why I wrote a drumless ADL track and some other participants who have in the past made amazing drums also made drumless tracks.

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hockinsk3 wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 6:34 am
Rahodees wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:26 pm
hockinsk3 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:42 am I'm at a loss how to control polyphony on these synths. Even if I set 100 chips and 600 ops I'll get 3 note polyphony and randomly 4 note? Any ideas or just a bug?

Edit: It seems polyphony only works with notes having velocity values of 127. Anything below 127 and the polyphony of those notes is very random. This was a patch with 12 chips, 48 ops on a 4op voice. Any ideas to fix? Bit of a pain for anything played with more than 3 notes.poly-issue.gif
What do you mean when you say you're setting it to 100 chips and 600 ops? I encounter a maximum of 12 chips and 4 ops. Sorry I don't have anything helpful to offer, I'm just confused on that point.
For 2op algorithms, each channel can accommodate a single 2op voice
For 2x2op algorithms, each voice occupies two channels so polyhpony halved
For 4op algorithms, each voice occupies two channels but the channels cannot be occupied arbitrarily. Up to 12 channels may be reserved for 4op, allowing 6 4op voices.

It seems that 4op polyphony is bugged because I am not seeing any increase in 4op polyphony when each note being played isn't 127 velocity, certainly not 6 voice polyphony as the screen grab shows, it can't even play 5 voices. It's not a huge issue, it just means for stuff like chords or fast-moving progressions with some release to the voice, you have to disable velocity to get the possible polyphony as described in the manual.
I see!

How does this lead to a total of 100 chips? (And 600 ops?) I keep seeing a limit of 12 chips and 4 ops.

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empphryio wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:33 am As I understand it the two aren't basically the same are they? OPN was much better for drums. ADL was otherwise better. But I could never get OPN to show up in Reaper.

This is why I wrote a drumless ADL track and some other participants who have in the past made amazing drums also made drumless tracks.
I guess that is why I was drawn to using both. Anyway, I am working on an all ADL version I just need to get a good clap sound and maybe work out how to replicate my side channel tick. The hard part is taming the frequencies you don't want with EQ but I am getting close to what I had using OPN.

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I hope there will be a few more entries added in the next few hours and I think I only count 22 entries so far.

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BrainBeatMusic wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 1:37 pm I hope there will be a few more entries added in the next few hours and I think I only count 22 entries so far.
I hope so as well but I think a lot of people were frustrated with the synth(s).

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Only 26 people entered February's Synister round.
69 on the MG1 Plus round!
Really varies!
Captain Silverpants

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Quick calculation.... the average number of entrants in 2021 was 34.
Ranged between 18 to 49.
Captain Silverpants

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Rahodees wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:45 pm How does this lead to a total of 100 chips? (And 600 ops?) I keep seeing a limit of 12 chips and 4 ops.
I don't understand what the question is? The maximum number of Chips = 100 for ADL and OPN, the maximum number of Ops = 600 for ADL, I have checked it now on both, in Standalone and VST. It is impossible to play with these settings, they eat 150-400% of the CPU, but I can set these numbers. I should probably add that I have developer versions, VST2, Win7 64, Cakewalk.
Now you can check the differences.

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IV! wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 3:09 pm
Rahodees wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 12:45 pm How does this lead to a total of 100 chips? (And 600 ops?) I keep seeing a limit of 12 chips and 4 ops.
I don't understand what the question is? The maximum number of Chips = 100 for ADL and OPN, the maximum number of Ops = 600 for ADL, I have checked it now on both, in Standalone and VST. It is impossible to play with these settings, they eat 150-400% of the CPU, but I can set these numbers. I should probably add that I have developer versions, VST2, Win7 64, Cakewalk.
Now you can check the differences.
When I try to set chips to 100, it automatically resets to 12, I can't get more than 12. So I guess my question is exactly that--how to get more than 12 chips?

We're talking about the number next to the light bulb icon right?

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(And maximum number of ops--I only see options for two ops and four ops, where are you seeing an option for up to 600?)

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It just works for me, I don't know... :shrug:

The same numbers for 2x2 op and 2 op.
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My entry, I wanted to make it with one ADLplug instance only but it was too much trouble and not fun. Also this synth gave me some spurious frequencies in the output, I hope the mix is good enough.

https://soundcloud.com/liqih/dust-rain

10 x ADLplug VST in
12 x Ableton Live tracks
with Ableton EQ-Eight, Compressor, Reverb, Delay, AutoPan
+ PanCake VST + HY-Delay4 Free VST

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Here's this month's entry.

https://soundcloud.com/violator-alba-99 ... al_sharing

Wish I'd found a manual sooner then I might've known what I was doing with some time to spare! Aiming for a metallic sound with this but it deviated a bit from my original thoughts.
Running in Tracktion Waveform Pro 12.
Uses 11 instance of OPNPlug along with Kilohearts Reverb, Stereo and 3-Band EQ (all from their free collection). Also used Waveform's built in compressor and Master Mix processor.
Wee bit of help from the OPNMidi patch editor to fix up the bank files each time the plugin screwed them over...

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I like the musical side of this synth but dislike the technical side.

https://soundcloud.com/l-k-k-n/once-the ... ocean-here

DAW: Reaper 6.46

ADLplug x32
Flux Mini 2 x9
JS: 8x Mono to 1x Stereo Mixer x1
JS: Delay w/Tempo Ping-Pong x3
JS: MIDI Transpose Notes x17
JS: Soft Clipper/Limiter x1
JS: Volume Adjustment x2
Limiter №6 x1
OrilRiver x20
ReaComp x1
ReaDelay x5
ReaEQ x4
ReaGate x3
ReaSurround x1

Flux Mini 2 is used only as a volume automation tool.
JS: Soft Clipper/Limiter is used only for the snare.

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horrid little synth, fun round!

https://soundcloud.com/mikaela-groendah ... ve-microbe

18x adlplug

bitwig 4.3
delay-2, filter, eq-5, dynamics, delay+

a1stereocontrol
bitglitter
blindfold eq
bx_cleansweep v2
chowtapemodel
deelay
dragonfly plate reverb
hornetangle
ozone imager 2
tal reverb 4
tdr kotelnikov
verbity

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