Why do people here hate on cherry audio?

[MRT]

I picked up the Quadra when it was released to replace a sampled version. I think it captures the vibe and sound well enough, and I really like the way it's implemented controls over the individual sections.
As far as I know, this is the best vst emulation of that synth available. As the Arp Quadra would be part of my dream keyboard rig, I'm thrilled to have this vst.
I've tried some of their other offerings and cant say the moved me but that applies to a lot of developers.

[wwjd]

in my personal, SUBJECTIVE opinion, I don't have any problems with ANY of those interfaces. all seem functional to me. I might lean toward the shadowed, more realistic ones for beauty and reality, but I can't think of a time an interface bothered me unless it was far too small in 4K... it's all just mouse click buttons to me, or real knobs/sliders on controller.

everybody is allowed to be different, and like different things. people using the term "best" is more about what is best for them, in their case.

[NikkiA]

The only CA GUI I really have a problem with is Mercury-4 and that huge area of unused space, that makes the window tall enough to not fit comfortably on a 1080p screen while also being able to see the levels display on the track in reaper.

[blatanville]

The Softube one looks awful. I don't get that devs have to add in faded keys, rust, screws, broken keys etc. FWIW the CA one is clear concise and easy to read. But let’s not forget, GUI’s are distracting and it’s all about the sound

A GUI can be distracting, it can be obtuse, it can be garish and ugly, but it's always necessary. It's the way you interface with the device.

[blatanville]

The official Roland Juno 106 has 2 Gui options (Light and Dark).
I prefer the Juno 60 version more since it looks better + you have Juno 60+106 in one.

My Favorite of them all is the Softube Juno 106 and i find the Quirky Touches to their Models Cool and a breath of fresh air from those Clinical Boring Standard vst Gui's.

And if you don't like Yellow Keys you can always hide the Keyboard and save it as default.

Do both versions of the Juno 106 interface include all that extra crap?

And, at this point, there's nothing really fresh about showing distressed interfaces on VSTs. And what is a "standard VST GUI"?
(Good to know you can hide the keyboard, though. It looks like a smile in need of a dental hygienist.)

[blatanville]

The chalk, apparently:

Where are the sliders at? You can barely see them, which forces you to study the interface really closely to get any information from it.

Ah, now you're getting into specifics: that's good.
Yes, I can see how they could use more contrast. It's more of a problem, I think, when the faders are set at the top or bottom of their range. I see it in this smallish image. It's less of a problem - for me - on my 4k monitor. My condolences to anyone who has to squint at their VSTs through a laptop screen.

And the cheese:

Here you can see at a glance where all the sliders are, thanks to the different colour and the obvious drop shadow.

Fair: the drop shadow is doing a good job of showing the position of the sliders.

(also, why is the High Pass Filter labelled "EQ"?)

Because it's not a HP Filter, it's a specialised EQ thing. It has 4 discrete settings, it's not a continous slider, and sometimes it's quite useful.

I'm racking my brain trying to remember whether the HPF slider on my old Juno 106 was a smooth continuous slider, or if it had click-stops at each of the labelled points along its travel.
If I wanted to quibble with Softube's choice, here, I'd say a feature with four discrete settings isn't best served by a slider.

P.S. anyone wish their controller keyboard also included a pitch/mod paddle like those old Roland synths? Just the ability to give the paddle a bump to briefly trigger the modulations was intuitive and fun.

[D-Fusion]

The official Roland Juno 106 has 2 Gui options (Light and Dark).
I prefer the Juno 60 version more since it looks better + you have Juno 60+106 in one.

My Favorite of them all is the Softube Juno 106 and i find the Quirky Touches to their Models Cool and a breath of fresh air from those Clinical Boring Standard vst Gui's.

And if you don't like Yellow Keys you can always hide the Keyboard and save it as default.

Do both versions of the Juno 106 interface include all that extra crap?

And, at this point, there's nothing really fresh about showing distressed interfaces on VSTs. And what is a "standard VST GUI"?
(Good to know you can hide the keyboard, though. It looks like a smile in need of a dental hygienist.)

Yes the Only difference is darker or lighter Gui on the Roland Version.

The only Cherry Plugin i don't like and haven't bother to reinstall is the DCO 106 (Not because of how it looks but the sound and behavior is not a 106 and i don't like the sound of the Built in Chorus either).

[blatanville]

while looking for some info about the Softube Model 84, I came across this video:



Strap on your headphones or turn up your monitors and, without looking at the screen, let the video roll.
While there are some patches that show an obvious difference between plugins (esp. the TAL U-No-Lx, to my ears, but as a commenter on the video pointed out, it's emulating a Juno 60, not a 106), they are pretty similar overall. Yes, there are some artifacts in the DCO-106 that I think I'm hearing. But it's only on certain patches that it's notable/possibly unpleasant vs the Model 84.
The Model 84 also demonstrates some mild high frequency noise on most of its examples (heard most in the release stage).

Also, these are all straight-out-of-the-plugin and otherwise not processed, as they would be in a mix. So, sure, naked, the differences can stand out. EQed and balanced in a mix, most of the differences would become less relevant.

[D-Fusion]

You also have this one

[blatanville]

And Roland vs Roland. The plugin acquits itself well, for the most part. I don't know if it's their recording or the plugin, but the plugin channel crackles a LOT on the Strings 1 patch...

[dionenoid]

I'm racking my brain trying to remember whether the HPF slider on my old Juno 106 was a smooth continuous slider, or if it had click-stops at each of the labelled points along its travel.

The original Juno 106 has a 4-step switch for the HPF :

The Juno 106 also has a 1-pole High Pass filter which does not have a traditional variable frequency control, but instead has 4 fixed filter responses controlled by the on board micro-controller:

High Pass Filter setting 2
High Pass Filter setting 1
No filtering
Low frequency boost

[blatanville]

I'm racking my brain trying to remember whether the HPF slider on my old Juno 106 was a smooth continuous slider, or if it had click-stops at each of the labelled points along its travel.

The original Juno 106 has a 4-step switch for the HPF :

The Juno 106 also has a 1-pole High Pass filter which does not have a traditional variable frequency control, but instead has 4 fixed filter responses controlled by the on board micro-controller:

High Pass Filter setting 2
High Pass Filter setting 1
No filtering
Low frequency boost

Thanks. I found a photocopy/scan of the manual online, but it was really smudged, and couldn't be arsed to dig any further.

[chk071]

You also have this one

Mmh... that's not very close IMO.

[zerocrossing]

And Roland vs Roland. The plugin acquits itself well, for the most part. I don't know if it's their recording or the plugin, but the plugin channel crackles a LOT on the Strings 1 patch...

The Roland plugins are notoriously CPU hogs, so that would be my guess. I avoided using them until I upgraded my machine, but on a good modern machine, they work fine with no crackles.

This is really where the Cherry Audio plugins shine. You can have a lot going on, even in the modular environment, with not much CPU use. I loaded up on all the plugins/modules when I was on an old i7. I didn’t even buy Softube Modular because I could barely get anything interesting going before I was into buffer overrun land.

Of course, like a hermit crab, I grow into my available shell space, and now I’m pushing Softube Modular and VCV Rack Pro into buffer overruns. That’s why I keep a few hardware synths around. No sense using a plugin for a basic analog bass sound, when analog synths can be purchased for a few hundred dollars. Not that any of mine were that cheap, but it was before Behringer’s onslaught of cheap clones. I guess I need a quantum computer. My friend was working on one. He mentioned that it could see up to 2000s years into the past when fed enough data, and then extrapolate into the future up to a point. Then he mysteriously disappeared.

[zerocrossing]

You also have this one

If you have moderate to severe hearing damage, you can save a lot with the Cherry Audio plugin!