(Well, even if you use Projucer, that's fine too - thanks to effort from Jatin Chowdhury.)
With this, you could possibly be having CLAP versions of your stuff by the end of the week, or so.
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If it helps, I took a bunch of (zero gui) VST2s over the weekend and ported them automatically to CLAP as an experiment. Glad to share that code. Probably best to do that on some platform other than KVR though. PM me if you are interested.Markus Krause wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:17 pm Thanks for your efforts. I already built a relieably working working vst2 to vst3 adapter in Juce. I will definitely try to add CLAP support to my existing products in the next months which should not big a big deal. Either by extending Juce or VST 2.4.
Each of those devs want to make their format standard. If Ableton supports CLAP, then there might be a dam breaking that could cause a lot of devs to stop supporting VST3. That could at least force Cubase's hand, since they're supporting the only format that a lot of people are active upset about with the switch from VST2 to VST3.adammonroe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:20 pmHowever:
*Cubase never adopted the AU format.
*Logic never adopted VST.
*Avid does not support anything besides AAX.
I'm user, but am watching this with great interest as a Reason user who dumped Cubase as soon as VST support was added to Reason. I am hoping they adopt CLAP as a way to ditch being beholden to the whims of Steinberg. I am not holding my breath on this though.adammonroe wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:20 pmThe push would have to come from users, and users don't much care: most Cubase users don't even seem to care that much about using VST2 and possibly a bunch of older plugins no one is around to update.
That would be wildly impractical today. Most users still make music in environments which cannot load a clap. The standard is 3 weeks past launch.soundmodel wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:29 am Is it reasonable to discard support for VST2/VST3 and produce CLAP-only plug-ins?
Or is this too fundamentalist or otherwise an impractical attitude?
Cool, sounds nice and works out of the box in Anklang. I'm just finishing off parameter support, here's how the GUI looks atm:No_Use wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:49 pm If anyone's interested, I got my feet wet doing a simple (GUI-less) CLAP plugin, using JUCE and the clap-juce-extensions and having a GitHub CI/auto build system for it going.
Although there were some problems, it works rather nicely, spits out Win/Mac/Linux binaries (build artefacts) on pushing to GitHub.
https://github.com/nofishonfriday/Lauri ... reo-plugin
Wow, nice and thanks.
No_Use wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:53 pmYes, Anklang is developed under Linux, it's a long way from feature complete though, versioning is still at 0.0.1Tim Janik wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:30 pm Wow, nice and thanks.
I'll admit I am (was) unfamiliar with Anklang though, it's a Linux DAW, right?
(the link in your sig to it seems down here btw.)
I'm usually not on Linux but I like to support it.
And what actually does "finishing off parameter support" mean lol? (sorry for the noob question...)
edit:
Ah you integrate your own GUI version of it?
It is implemented as a DAW audio-engine in C++ and serves JS/CSS files so it's UI is rendered in Electron (or a browser like Chrome or Firefox). For plugins, I've recently written a tiny gtk+2 wrapper DLL, so they can display their own UI in an X11 window if they have one.
Regardless of plugins implementing their own UI, Anklang generates a device block/UI for each plugin based on the parameters exported by it.
The above screenshot shows the UI generated for its internal BlepSynth instrument and your LauridsenSchodderStereo plugin.
The website should be up, but isn't ;-(
Seems like Strato is having a hardware issues again, should be fixed in a few hours. In the meantime you can take a look ath the github repository
https://github.com/tim-janik/anklang
The last nightly doesn't have full parameter support yet, I'm completing that atm and will release a 0.0.2 once CLAP support is half way decent.
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