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xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:55 am

^^^ I can't try it so not sure about its chord recognition feature but UChord

even can chop the chords https://www.kvraudio.com/product/uchord ... idi-plugin and still 15$, although personally still voting for the chord patterns learning at least one scale https://www.udemy.com/course/piano-chords/ + a MIDI keyboard

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:53 am

Of course it can recognize the chords you play. Scaler2 has many features. It's more than enough to learn from and to try your own chord progression.
You can see in short its features and images. You can also watch YouTube tutorials about it.
https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/ ... 9-Scaler-2

I personally don't need any other tool related to scales or chords. I also have some books about Music Theory that I keep reading them.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:59 am

I am happy learn from these tools, but I won't write any chord progressions I cant actually play live- imagen someone saying 'play me that song you wrote' and you say 'I can't'!

So many of the greatest songs ever written were written just beacuse it was easy to play (its where you fingers fell naturally) and have nothing to do with theory (this is particular true on the guitar!)

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:02 am

^^^ btw. found https://www.tonegym.co/ also useful, I would say worth playing with it for half an hour on a daily basis, just to build your own recognition engine

WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:18 am

SLiC wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:59 am So many of the greatest songs ever written were written just because it was easy to play (its where your fingers fell naturally) and have nothing to do with theory (this is particular true on the guitar!)

It's quite funny when you see elaborate stretch chords transposed out on some tab site and then you find out the way it was played by the real guitarist was moving a few fingers slowly in a simple shape that happens to be in a different tuning! Kashmir by Led Zep is a prime example.

Trancit · Post by **Trancit** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:01 pm

EnGee wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:21 pm ... I prefer Scaler 2. ...

Me too...

I didn´t want to defend the Props decision... just saw the video by accident which was about the same you were writing...

hotmitts · Post by **hotmitts** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:59 pm

Just to briefly swerve off the current topic, I bought version 12, went away from Reason for a while and came back to the latest update. I was immediately impressed by the super-quick loading time, so good on 'em.

jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:55 pm

WatchTheGuitar wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:18 am
SLiC wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:59 am So many of the greatest songs ever written were written just because it was easy to play (its where your fingers fell naturally) and have nothing to do with theory (this is particular true on the guitar!)
It's quite funny when you see elaborate stretch chords transposed out on some tab site and then you find out the way it was played by the real guitarist was moving a few fingers slowly in a simple shape that happens to be in a different tuning! Kashmir by Led Zep is a prime example.

Yeah, it's the same with other plucked instruments too that use different tunings - e.g. I have a concert zither whose tuning is totally based on the circle of fifths, which of course lends itself to coming up with completely different things than you would play on a guitar - if you mistake it for a (or two) guitar(s) you'll probably think something like "what on earth is going on there?" while in really it's just picking a couple of adjacent strings (plus playing the lead, which doesn't make matters easier). That is a way to totally naturally and effortlessly come up with lovely harmonies, especially when combining it with guitar.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:47 pm

Trancit wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:01 pm
EnGee wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:21 pm ... I prefer Scaler 2. ...
Me too...

I didn´t want to defend the Props decision... just saw the video by accident which was about the same you were writing...

You mean the video here, right?
https://www.reasonstudios.com/shop/rack ... sequencer/

Yes, of course I watched it

Anyway, I think if someone wants to stay inside Reason and wants a tool that he/she can combine with other tools/instruments, then it is a very useful tool and rather good at $49. Just be aware of not just follow their rules because after all there is no right or wrong in chord progression, just what's better suits the musical phrase according to what you want to convey or say in Music.

Trancit · Post by **Trancit** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:25 pm

No, I mean this live stream here:

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:07 am

Oh I see!
Well, I watched the first half an hour.
Hmmmm! I couldn't continue! Sorry!
While Ludvig seems reasonable to some degree, Mattias is not convincing at all!
I don't know exactly what they want here?! I thought it is to simplify what is already there! But it seems like they think that they are inventing something new?!! They should say it clearly that this is based on Music Theory and they are just making it easier for those who don't want to study or be bothered with it!

Yes, many talented producers in hip hop and other genres are doing great music just depending on ears and their feelings, but they are actually using Music Theory (and sometimes advanced level) without realising it.

What I really think is this will make it difficult for you to understand what's really going on! It will make things messy instead of putting a clear way to understand Music Theory and its levels gradually. Yes, use your ears and feelings because they are the correct rules but don't put dangerous rules without understanding Music Theory first!

As for me, I don't need such a tool

I will leave it at that! Cheers

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:23 am

Trancit wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:01 pm
EnGee wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:21 pm ... I prefer Scaler 2. ...
Me too...

I didn´t want to defend the Props decision... just saw the video by accident which was about the same you were writing...

Had I just heard of Scaler 2 before... Chord Sequencer is its little toddler.

It is still fun for when jamming in Reason (I don't have any plugins in Reason, just REs), but for Logic it's Scaler 2 now

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:41 am

Harmony Improvisator(2009) has a good concept, just somebody should recreate it with chord recognition and a bit better voicing editor (probably a piano-roll based one would be comfier) at the bottom

plus the next chord suggestion should be complexity based as Cubase has, RapidComposer able to suggest the next chord based on common note numbers that's also usable one

Smasha · Post by **Smasha** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:06 am

Reason 12 has decided to go to a blank screen then close on me.

Sigh.

Windows 11.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:39 am

Smasha wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:06 am Reason 12 has decided to go to a blank screen then close on me.

Sigh.

Windows 11.

It’s not verified to work on Windows 11 to my knowledge.

Reason 12 is here