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teilo · Post by **teilo** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:59 pm

Pinku Eiga wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:48 am WA Production Instacomposer is M1 native. One of these weird companies in which it's impossible to find information in its web about what products are native or only Rosetta compatible, and the only way to figure out this is to install each individual demo.

Sigh. Frankly I was hoping to never had to deal with WA. They are so spammy.

Pinku Eiga · Post by **Pinku Eiga** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:12 pm

teilo wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:59 pm
Pinku Eiga wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:48 am WA Production Instacomposer is M1 native. One of these weird companies in which it's impossible to find information in its web about what products are native or only Rosetta compatible, and the only way to figure out this is to install each individual demo.
Sigh. Frankly I was hoping to never had to deal with WA. They are so spammy.

I was looking for a procedural MIDI creator, in the vein of Piano Motifs for iOS/Mac (which it's by a large margin the best melody generator available). But capable of generating arrangements for more than 3 instruments. Tried the demo of Instacomposer, and it was atrocious. So I ended buying Orb Composer Pro S 1.5 which is currently on sale at 80$ in Plugin Boutique. Even when it's not M1 native, and even when supposedly there will be a new version this Summer. But it's really good for complex arrangements, and it works as a complement for Piano Motifs, because I can import the melodies.

Honestly, after the bad experience with Instacomposer, that it's only a glorified arpeggiator generating melodies that will irritate your pets, I doubt that I will try other WA plugin in a long time

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:36 pm

Pinku Eiga wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:48 am WA Production Instacomposer is M1 native. One of these weird companies in which it's impossible to find information in its web about what products are native or only Rosetta compatible, and the only way to figure out this is to install each individual demo.

https://waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en- ... ur-Plugins

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:57 pm

Finally got around to installing my Rob Papen plugins on the M1 and they seem to be mislabeled as native. None of Blade2, Blue II, or Punch2 is ARM native. RP-Amod and RP-Pan are native Silicon. The others are not. I have installed the latest versions that are published.

cadiz · Post by **cadiz** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:17 pm

Blade2, Blue II, or Punch2 are ARM native (VST + VST3), looking at the installer for version Explorer 7.03 as we speak...

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:20 pm

cadiz wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:17 pm Blade2, Blue II, or Punch2 are ARM native (VST + VST3), looking at the installer for version Explorer 7.03 as we speak...

Which versions of the individual plugins are you looking at? Do you have them installed? Did you check they were native post-install?

cadiz · Post by **cadiz** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:25 pm

Latest versions, running natively in Ableton Live 11.1

cadiz · Post by **cadiz** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:31 pm

kidslow wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:20 pm
cadiz wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:17 pm Blade2, Blue II, or Punch2 are ARM native (VST + VST3), looking at the installer for version Explorer 7.03 as we speak...
Which versions of the individual plugins are you looking at? Do you have them installed? Did you check they were native post-install?

Your installers are out of date - download the latest Explorer installer...

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:33 pm

I don't have Explorer. I have the Sound Design-X bundle and I have the latest versions available in my account and the version numbers match with what is in the db ... https://asaudio.tech/developer/70 ... so I'm not sure what the disconnect is. Maybe Explorer customers are getting newer versions?

[EDIT] Filed a support ticket with Rob Papen, and will find out what they say.

cadiz · Post by **cadiz** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:37 pm

You can download the individual installers, just downloaded Blade2 - Blade2_1_0_1a.dmg is latest version, as an example

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:58 pm

Thanks for at least confirming that there are native versions cadiz. I downloaded the individual installers and got the exact same versions as I already had installed, so it appeared. I will install those and see where it gets me.

Can't actually tell what precise versions I had installed. Maybe they're not the exact same versions? Is 1.0.1a the same as 1.0.1 ... and why such a convoluted versioning scheme? There is room for a major.minor.point version in there and to think maybe it all hangs off that letter at the end? If I was adding M1 support, I'd at least iterate the minor version, but call me crazy. Why have versions at all?

Anyway I filed a support ticket with Rob Papen.

[EDIT] This is so frustrating. I downloaded all the individual plugins. Looking at Blue II "Blue2_1_0_3f" and I see Blue2.vst is 105.4MB and the version in my bundle is 55.5MB. They both show as version 1.0.3 and the date & time stamps on the files are useless because the modification date seems to be generated when you request the download, not when the package was created. I am cautiously optimistic that these individual installers will be native, but Rob why oh why do you version your releases in such a cockamamie way?

cadiz · Post by **cadiz** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:00 pm

I think that RP did not update version-numbering for the AS native versions which is inconvenient...

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:18 pm

kidslow wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:57 pm Finally got around to installing my Rob Papen plugins on the M1 and they seem to be mislabeled as native. None of Blade2, Blue II, or Punch2 is ARM native. RP-Amod and RP-Pan are native Silicon. The others are not. I have installed the latest versions that are published.

I verified every Rob Papen plugin, own them all, installed them when I updated the DB. None are misidentified.

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:19 pm

cadiz wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:00 pm I think that RP did not update version-numbering for the AS native versions which is inconvenient...

The version numbers on the database are accurate, and the versions absolutely changed when an M1 version was released, and as noted, the letter is significant. Sometimes the M1 update was the only change, and he only reved the letter. The versions are updated on the website, and the letter is part of the version in the plugin info screen of each plugin, so I don't see the problem.

teilo · Post by **teilo** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:57 pm

As noted on my developer page for RP, Explorer 7 It does not always include native versions for a few plugins, but the individual downloads do. This is true even though Explorer has been updated since those native updates were released. In the current download, the following plugins need to be updated after installing Explorer 7: Predator2, RG, and XY-Transfer.

The only non-native plugins remaining are RP-EQ and RAW-Kick.

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