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Boy Wonder wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:42 am My confusion comes from the description of Novum: "You can drag and drop any sample source in the plugin window and Novum will decompose it into 6 layers of sound."

By that statement, to me, it means if 1 sample decomposes into 6 layers then 6 samples should decompose into 36 layers. If it's actually still only 6 decomposed layers regardless of the amount of samples dragged in, I'd understand.
It has 6 layers. Each layer consists of one sample.
When dragging in a sample to decompose, Novum creates 6 different (decomposed) samples and spreads them across the 6 layers.
Now, you can also drag a sample into a single layer, this sample will not be decomposed, though. It will be the complete sample in one layer.
You only have 6 layers and each layer can be either a decomposed part of a sample (still just a sample) or a whole sample or also a decomposed part of a completely different sample.
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So, to understand this: If I drag in 6 samples, only one of them will get decomposed into 6 layers and the other five will be unaffected?
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You can only drop in one sample at a time. The one sample is "decomposed" into six layers. Just exactly how the layers are determined is known only to the developer (for now). One sample--->six layers.

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parma wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:46 am You can only drop in one sample at a time. The one sample is "decomposed" into six layers. Just exactly how the layers are determined is known only to the developer (for now). One sample--->six layers.
No, you can drop one sample into each of the six slots if you like and then the sample will not be decomposed into six layers but stay intact.

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Sampleconstruct wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:06 am
parma wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:46 am You can only drop in one sample at a time. The one sample is "decomposed" into six layers. Just exactly how the layers are determined is known only to the developer (for now). One sample--->six layers.
No, you can drop one sample into each of the six slots if you like and then the sample will not be decomposed into six layers but stay intact.
Yes! I just figured the most typical use would be what I mentioned. I guess I've just added more confusion to an already confusing topic. :lol:

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@Sampleconstruct said, "No, you can drop one sample into each of the six slots if you like and then the sample will not be decomposed into six layers but stay intact."

So if I import 1 sample, it'll get deconstructed into 6 layers? And if I import 2 samples do they evenly get deconstructed into 3 layers each? 3 samples deconstructed into 2 layers each? What about 4 and 5 samples? A ratio of the deconstruction process?
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Boy Wonder wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:36 am @Sampleconstruct said, "No, you can drop one sample into each of the six slots if you like and then the sample will not be decomposed into six layers but stay intact."

So if I import 1 sample, it'll get deconstructed into 6 layers? And if I import 2 samples do they evenly get deconstructed into 3 layers each? 3 samples deconstructed into 2 layers each? What about 4 and 5 samples? A ratio of the deconstruction process?
you can only import/drop one sample to be deconstructed. into 6 layers.

but: that is the confusing part; you can drop a sample on each layer, that won't be deconstructed, but will be spectral 'info'.

if you drop one sample, that is split into 6 layers, a second sample you can drop onto a layer, that will replace whatever contents it had, with that new sample.

no ratio of deconstruction process...

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So, if you import 6 samples, only the first one will be deconstructed into 6 layers and the other five will play normally?
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WasteLand wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:40 am
Boy Wonder wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:36 am @Sampleconstruct said, "No, you can drop one sample into each of the six slots if you like and then the sample will not be decomposed into six layers but stay intact."

So if I import 1 sample, it'll get deconstructed into 6 layers? And if I import 2 samples do they evenly get deconstructed into 3 layers each? 3 samples deconstructed into 2 layers each? What about 4 and 5 samples? A ratio of the deconstruction process?
you can only import/drop one sample to be deconstructed. into 6 layers.

but: that is the confusing part; you can drop a sample on each layer, that won't be deconstructed, but will be spectral 'info'.

if you drop one sample, that is split into 6 layers, a second sample you can drop onto a layer, that will replace whatever contents it had, with that new sample.

no ratio of deconstruction process...
This is what I should've said

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Boy Wonder wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:44 am So, if you import 6 samples, only the first one will be deconstructed into 6 layers and the other five will play normally?
Please give us a break and just try for yourself, then you shall understand 🙏
Last edited by Sampleconstruct on Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:27 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Novum 1.08 is out.

1.08
released 07/6/22

- Solves an issue with occasionally failing auval in Logic Pro.
- Added support for the Tracktion Download Manager: the content pack auto-installs when downloaded.
- Added a START TRIAL button.
- Other minor fixes.

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Sampleconstruct wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:51 am
Boy Wonder wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:44 am So, if you import 6 samples, only the first one will be deconstructed into 6 layers and the other five will play normally?
Please give us a break an just try for yourself, then you shall understand 🙏
indeed. i was just thinking the same thing. tracktion gives a great demo period; 90 days, no restrictions.

you can use the plugin for 90 days, as if you own it, afterwards, of course.... but 90 days!

EDIT: @wakax, thanks!

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well, while waiting, eat some chips; or crisps...


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Boy Wonder wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:44 am So, if you import 6 samples, only the first one will be deconstructed into 6 layers and the other five will play normally?
There's one main slot for a main sample.

When you drop a sample into the main slot, it decomposes that into six layers.

If you want to, you can drop a separate sample into one of the layers. But that will not be processed/decomposed, and that sub-sample will replace one of the layers you've created from the main sample.

If you fill up the layers with six sub-samples, then add a main sample, then it will replace those sub-samples with six layers. So you can use the layers to tweak a patch to turn it into a multi, but you can't decompose more than one sample.

If you only want to be able to decompose sounds, then you can use a Max for Live device called Factorsynth, which appears to me to use a similar algorithm to Novum to decompose sounds. This allows you to decompose two samples into up to 30 layers and operates a bit like a vocoder, but it doesn't offer any of the other features that Novum has. My experience of it is that it has a slower workflow than Novum and there's limited value in more than about 10 layers, but it is quite useful for extracting elements of a complex sound. https://isotonikstudios.com/product/factorsynth-2-demo/

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@Double Tap - Thanks. I get it now after reading both your explanation and the actual Novum manual (which I should've done in the first place anyway). These are the two standout bits I should've gleaned from the manual:

1. Drop any audio file on the WAVE DISPLAY to decompose the audio into 6 layers.
2. Drop an audio file here (specific layer) to import it as a sample for this specific layer.
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