Why do people here hate on cherry audio?

[Trensharo]

it is KVR; always hate for some brand.. arturia, cherry audio, ikm, NI, ikm…

This. Some people are just f**king morons, pushing their opinions on people. To the list you can add Waves, PA, Korg, just about any manufacturer, not just CA. Use your own ears, demo and make up your own mind. And by the way, you’ll always see the same people hating, probably without even demoing. Idiots.

That's the music production market.

People in this market are probably the most cultish software users I've encountered since emacs vs. vi. It's imperative that people either limit their exposure to forums or understand that they cannot trust internet feedback when evaluating products.

This isn't just a KVR issue. On VI-Control it's the same. It's also the same on Reddit and other forms of social media.

Discussions are heavily laced with confirmation bias and fierce brand loyalty. You cannot get any useful information out of them. You have to determine what is worth it for yourself.

This is common - expected, even - in most market segments... but the music production market seems particularly bad at it. It is almost like discussing politics.

[Boy Wonder]

The fierce blood-letting opposition I've seen to Waves also has me stymied. Waves plugins are used - and designed - by some of the top names in the industry (Manny Marroquin, Tony Maserati, Eddie Kramer, Chris Lord-Alge, Allen Sides, etc) as well as folks from the cream of the crop studios (Abbey Road, Ocean Way, etc) modeling top equipment (SSL, Lexicon, dbx, etc) and they sound great, even their synths which Richard Devine uses.

tl;dr: Haters gonna hate. Ignore them. Maybe they'll go away.

[machinesworking]

The fierce blood-letting opposition I've seen to Waves also has me stymied. Waves plugins are used - and designed - by some of the top names in the industry (Manny Marroquin, Tony Maserati, Eddie Kramer, Chris Lord-Alge, Allen Sides, etc) as well as folks from the cream of the crop studios (Abbey Road, Ocean Way, etc) modeling top equipment (SSL, Lexicon, dbx, etc) and they sound great, even their synths which Richard Devine uses.

tl;dr: Haters gonna hate. Ignore them. Maybe they'll go away.

Waves used to cost ten times what they do now, they used to be the best in the business or at least perceived that way, and the Waveshell used to be a buggy mess leaving peoples systems prone to crashes and instability. None of that is true now, whatever issue the Waveshell had, personally it's never been that bad. The hate now comes from paid upgrades that can be as simple as OS compatibility, which people don't love.

Cherry Audio just entered a saturated market filled with emulations of old hardware, offered more of the same at a cheaper price. No quality jump, just cheaper. I have no interest in their emulations, but the Dreamsynth looks pretty cool really.

[Uncle E]

The fierce blood-letting opposition I've seen to Waves also has me stymied. Waves plugins are used - and designed - by some of the top names in the industry (Manny Marroquin, Tony Maserati, Eddie Kramer, Chris Lord-Alge, Allen Sides, etc) as well as folks from the cream of the crop studios (Abbey Road, Ocean Way, etc) modeling top equipment (SSL, Lexicon, dbx, etc) and they sound great, even their synths which Richard Devine uses.

Chris Lord-Alge doesn't use Waves. I assume that's the case with most of those people, outside of a few classic products like the L1/L2/L3 series. Andrew Scheps is a different story, I think he's switched to all plugins now.

This isn't meant to be a knock on Waves, just distinguishing development partners from actual users. I think the Abbey Road Collection is fantastic, you get a lot of great sounding, useful plugins for a low price and updating is easy and cheap. Every time I've updated Abbey Road Collection, I got a plugin that had been added to the collection, meaning the update itself was basically free.

[ramseysounds]

Chris Lord-Alge doesn't use Waves.

Do you want to reconsider that quote?

[Boy Wonder]

"I couldn’t just pan the sample to one side, because your attention would be drawn to it, so I ended up using a [Waves] Doubler plug–in and a little bit of EQ to spread the sample, ie. to make it sound bigger, and at the same time move it out of the way of Kanye’s vocals in the middle."

Manny Maroquin in Sound On Sound
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... -marroquin

[Boy Wonder]

"On Pharrell's voice I just had the Waves C4 and an RCompressor, and on TI I had a Waves RDe-esser, a Waves SSL EQ, an RCompressor, a UAD Cambridge EQ and a Waves CLA compressor, and no outboard.”

Tony Maserati in Sound On Sound.
https://www.soundonsound.com/people/tony-maserati

[Boy Wonder]

"In the box I had the [Waves] Renaissance Vox on his vocals, which is a pretty nice compressor, it brings the vocals really close, and some Waves or Digi de-essing."

Warren Huart w/Jack Douglas on engineering/producing Aerosmith's Music From Another Dimension in Sound On Sound.
https://www.soundonsound.com/people/ins ... -aerosmith

[Boy Wonder]

Eddie Kramer mixing with Waves.

[Boy Wonder]

"I used two [Waves] Renaissance de–essers on Chris's voice that were doing different things, and then a stock Digidesign de-esser."

Michael Brauer on producing Coldplay in Sound On Sound.
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... ael-brauer

[Boy Wonder]

“The main guitars are two acoustic guitars recorded in stereo with two microphones.You see the Waves TransX Wide plug–in at the top."

JJ Puig on producing Fergie' 'Big Girls Don't Cry.'
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques ... rs-jj-puig

[Vortifex]

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[ramseysounds]

Advert? Did you even watch it?

[Vortifex]

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[ramseysounds]

Nm.