KVR Audio

ON BEATS · Post by **ON BEATS** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:54 am

Ploki wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:37 am good riddance. Sick of devs who rely on rosetta to market "M1 compatibility". With so much choice on the market today, idgaf about lazy devs

and that is the correct reply. we have loads of choice, who cares if a few don't work.

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:24 pm

Yep. During IK's Grope Buy last summer/autumn, I loaded up on TrackS processors. I kinda knew there'd be no M1 TrackS 5, though given the amount of time since then, I'd hoped v6 would've popped up by now. Nope. It is their only major release that isn't M1 native, yet.
Disappointing.

ON BEATS · Post by **ON BEATS** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:27 pm

I'll ask my tech guy if it's possible to re-open a plug-in then render it

This is ridiculous because my plug-in worked straight away without restarting the mac. My friend is making cheap ass plug-ins and they work too

Some manufacturers don't care. I can't think of another reason.

asstudioton · Post by **asstudioton** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:41 pm

Bombadil wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:24 pm I kinda knew there'd be no M1 TrackS 5

are you sure ? No M1 updates for tracks 5?

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:44 pm

Not yet. It's at 5.9 now.

XorXisT · Post by **XorXisT** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:49 pm

Peter have said in another forum that M1 updates for T-Racks 5 is coming.

We're working on the M1 update for T-RackS 5 first so that's coming before any full version release.

https://discuss.cakewalk.com/index.php? ... ent=364710

asstudioton · Post by **asstudioton** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:50 pm

Bombadil wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:44 pm Not yet. It's at 5.9 now.

Probably tracks 6 is coming. With m1 support of course

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:18 pm

Yep. 5.9.1 isn't going to M1 Native.

But this by Peter is interesting:

„We're working on the M1 update for T-RackS 5 first so that's coming before any full version release.“

Bombadil · Post by **Bombadil** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:20 pm

Believe it when I see it.

machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:47 pm

teilo wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:37 pm
ON BEATS wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:47 am I think Rosetta will always remain active. I'm surprised Intel didn't sue them for what they've done
There's nothing to sue over. Intel doesn't have a patent on binary translation and caching.

The difference between now and the PowerPC era is the sheer amount of Mac software. People forget how niche Mac was when it didn't run Intel.

? Niche is over selling it. Yes every small time plug in developer jumped on board with intel, but I never felt left out because I couldn't use all the Synth Edit synths on my PPC machine, especially considering Cycling 74's Max/MSP had a whole ecosystem of free devices that didn't work on PC, and Zebra was AU only.
I would say hardly any of us are waiting on those same small time developers, as most of them have ported already, it's the big players like NI, Avid, IK etc. who always had Mac versions of their software that are lagging.

To the topic though, Apple will 100% get rid of Rosetta in an upcoming OS release, roughly 4-5 years from now. There's some European rule that prevents them from doing it sooner than that.

nanostream · Post by **nanostream** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:01 pm

I’m also pretty sure Rosetta will go away at some point. It would be out of character for Apple to maintain an additional layer longer than necessary.

Apparently they even modified their CPUs to make the translation run faster, so if they decide to drop these modifications Rosetta will probably stop working as well.

https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/13 ... 3402547201

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:00 am

Ploki wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:37 am good riddance. Sick of devs who rely on rosetta to market "M1 compatibility". With so much choice on the market today, idgaf about lazy devs

While I concur with your sentiment, I hope Rosetta2 does not go away. I have one plugin I heavily rely on for placing physically modeled instruments like SWAM on a stage, Parallax-Audio Virtual Sound Stage 2. It hasn't been updated since 2014, and I don't suspect it is going to be updated ever again.

I am able to use it in native Apple Silicon Studio One by loading the Audio Units version. It's not ideal, and it breaks cross-platform compatibility with Windows for me, but at least it works.

Ploki · Post by **Ploki** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:26 am

Oh i remember that one. I do agree that there's no necessity to get rid of rosetta

ON BEATS · Post by **ON BEATS** » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:03 pm

Ploki wrote: Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:26 am Oh i remember that one. I do agree that there's no necessity to get rid of rosetta

without Rosetta my Korg MIDI connect app won't work anymore

, and it's the only way I have been able to sync my Akai keyboard wirelessly

Ah_Dziz · Post by **Ah_Dziz** » Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:10 am

That's a bummer. Reminds me of the very slow move to Intel back in the day.

M1 native (not)coming updates