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maarkr · Post by **maarkr** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:45 pm

I was learning some different keyboard voicings, luxury voicings as an example. So the right hand voicing for C is E G B D with the left hand playing a C. Is this still a C chord for annotation or Em7 variant? There's other voicings that don't use the primary chord note so are they normally annotated in the voicing (if that makes sense)?

Googly Smythe · Post by **Googly Smythe** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:12 pm

maarkr wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:45 pm ...Is this still a C chord ...

That's a bit vague. Maj? Min? C6, 9,11,13, aug 4, sus 5?
Otherwise, Em7.
But I only know a c*nt full of music theory.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:29 pm

Cmaj9

Or sometimes called Cmaj7 add 9

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:41 pm

maarkr wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:45 pm So the right hand voicing for C is E G B D with the left hand playing a C. Is this still a C chord

Sure: Cmaj79. But other shorthand names do exist.

maarkr wrote: ↑Sun Jul 31, 2022 8:45 pm or Em7 variant?

Could be Em7/C, depending on the context, but the C is not a logical bass note for an E chord (the G or B are much more likely then to use)

jsaras · Post by **jsaras** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:08 pm

It is a C major 9. By calling it a 9th chord, the underlying 7th is implied. If there were no 7th in the structure, the "D" would probably be called a "2".

2DaT · Post by **2DaT** » Sun Aug 14, 2022 5:13 pm

Chord symbols don't reliably suggest a voicing. In jazz, you can play EADG on Cmaj7 and nobody would notice, though it doesn't contain the root and 7th.

NMARILLOT · Post by **NMARILLOT** » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:45 am

Hello is a Cmaj7add9

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:50 am

What it is depends a lot on the musical context. So, it matters what comes before and what goes after. The name is what matters the least.

NMARILLOT · Post by **NMARILLOT** » Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:02 am

Hi, i'm sorry but in this contexte we have five notes. We have a Cmaj7 and you add a 9. this is the closer way to write these chords. In jazz theory, it's a Cmaj7add9 but you can also write Em7/C but it's more modern and less readable.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:37 pm

An E chord, period, with a C bass is nonsense. There is no C in it. an unnecessary complication of a simple matter.
Even if you assert that as an Em add m6, the thing is a C^7, ie., the complication ‘added tone’ has no real use value (add m6 in the bass absurd), and the ear should know the harmony for what it is.
the 9 can be called ’add9’ or not, albeit I don’t when the 7th is present.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:00 pm

Regarding the “nonsense” of the slash chord “Em7/C”, I failed to elaborate, and the remark may be taken for more than it is, and be my responsibility basically. It isn’t that C isn’t part of a harmony on E per se, it’s that it_is_a C^7 (9), a simple matter, and the other name occludes the fact.

OTOH, say you want to write “Em7/A#” there’s no problem really, it’s as simple a designation as we’re going to have for that. While say an ‘Em7/C#’ is the grey area, C#ø7 b9 (C#m7 b5 b9) being not simpler really than that slash designation.

Is this still a C chord or a I chord in key of C?