Advantages / disadvantages Studio One Pro and Cubase Pro
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- KVRian
- 900 posts since 7 Aug, 2018
Might be easier to make a post dedicated to these questions.
First of all, in order to avoid further useless and various abuses.
Not at all a debate one against the other.
I would like to hear your opinions, impressions, satisfactions, disapprovals, advantages and disadvantages of Studio One Pro and Cubase Pro.
What is missing, your expectations for each of them.
Thank you in advance for your answers, feedback and opinions.
First of all, in order to avoid further useless and various abuses.
Not at all a debate one against the other.
I would like to hear your opinions, impressions, satisfactions, disapprovals, advantages and disadvantages of Studio One Pro and Cubase Pro.
What is missing, your expectations for each of them.
Thank you in advance for your answers, feedback and opinions.
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- KVRAF
- 9146 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
There are so many features and functions to compare between the two. Some of the advantages/disadvantages are logical and some are subjective.
Just few that I noticed lately:
1. Cubase has a better midi capture function. if you do playing while looping, it ask you if you want that capture looped (i.e. one above the others) or not looped (just a long midi capture). S1 doesn't!
2. The transformation function in the automation is better in Cubase (more flexible).
3. Cubase keeps replicate your temporary project if you don't save it, S1 doesn't.
4. You need to close the project and the main window in Cubase, in S1 you just close one Window when you exit.
5. S1 has patterns, Cubase doesn't.
There are so many really to list, but in the end I always feel better in S1 than Cubase. Cubase for me was till version 6, but after that it began to be a mess. S1 kept evolving better and better. That's subjective however, so it is an opinion rather than a fact
Just few that I noticed lately:
1. Cubase has a better midi capture function. if you do playing while looping, it ask you if you want that capture looped (i.e. one above the others) or not looped (just a long midi capture). S1 doesn't!
2. The transformation function in the automation is better in Cubase (more flexible).
3. Cubase keeps replicate your temporary project if you don't save it, S1 doesn't.
4. You need to close the project and the main window in Cubase, in S1 you just close one Window when you exit.
5. S1 has patterns, Cubase doesn't.
There are so many really to list, but in the end I always feel better in S1 than Cubase. Cubase for me was till version 6, but after that it began to be a mess. S1 kept evolving better and better. That's subjective however, so it is an opinion rather than a fact
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.
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- KVRAF
- 35676 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Would that really be relevant to your decision which DAW you want to use?Trancer wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 1:56 pm Might be easier to make a post dedicated to these questions.
First of all, in order to avoid further useless and various abuses.
Not at all a debate one against the other.
I would like to hear your opinions, impressions, satisfactions, disapprovals, advantages and disadvantages of Studio One Pro and Cubase Pro.
What is missing, your expectations for each of them.
Thank you in advance for your answers, feedback and opinions.
I find that hard to grasp. I have completely different demands and wishes than the next person I meet. If you want my advice: Make up your own mind. You can test the two DAW's, and you pay a lot of money for the highest tier versions of both. Best make sure that they meet your demands, not anyone else's.
Oh, by the way. Studio One is the best. Screw the rest.
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- KVRAF
- 1894 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
Cubase is best. The end
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRAF
- 2296 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
Studio One and Cubase are two of the DAWs of all time.
Always Read the Manual!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 900 posts since 7 Aug, 2018
Thank you very much for your feedback and reviews.
I suspect that it is not easy to say the advantages and disadvantages of the two daws and that each of them has essential things that the other does not have.
Can you tell me if there is still the problem with Cubase when adding a track, playback stops, if still very annoying anyway.
I used a lot of vst and now I'm back to a Hardware configuration, I will of course still use vst, but my future projects will be 90% a Hardware configuration.
Who best manages the integration of Hardware (audio / midi / stability)?
Apparently Studio One is better able to do this, better integration.
I suspect that it is not easy to say the advantages and disadvantages of the two daws and that each of them has essential things that the other does not have.
Can you tell me if there is still the problem with Cubase when adding a track, playback stops, if still very annoying anyway.
I used a lot of vst and now I'm back to a Hardware configuration, I will of course still use vst, but my future projects will be 90% a Hardware configuration.
Who best manages the integration of Hardware (audio / midi / stability)?
Apparently Studio One is better able to do this, better integration.
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- KVRAF
- 9146 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
They are both designed to be Studio DAW not Live DAW, so they are not gapless audio when inserting other plugins.
Both can host hardware instruments
but different setup and methods. S1 treat the hardware synth as an external instrument (one track) while in Cubase it's the same old way, a midi and audio tracks for the instrument. (sorry! incorrect!).
Both can send program/bank change, so you can change the presets by the mouse instead of pressing the buttons on the hardware.
Both can host hardware instruments
but different setup and methods. S1 treat the hardware synth as an external instrument (one track) while in Cubase it's the same old way, a midi and audio tracks for the instrument. (sorry! incorrect!).
Both can send program/bank change, so you can change the presets by the mouse instead of pressing the buttons on the hardware.
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Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.
- KVRAF
- 1844 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland
Nope. Cubase can use either the old way (midi and instrument tracks), or simply as an one track external instrument. Whatever you want.EnGee wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:47 pm Both can host hardware instruments, but different setup and methods. S1 treat the hardware synth as an external instrument (one track) while in Cubase it's the same old way, a midi and audio tracks for the instrument.
The loudness war is over, loudness has won
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
I have Cubase Pro 12 and Studio One Pro 4.5, and Studio One has a far better audio engine. I have played with Studio One by adding and deleting tracks and VSTs when the engine is recording and it just keeps on chugging alone. It can even be undone while its recording providing there are loop markers set up and it is looping. Cubase will keep running when adding VSTs and audio tracks but recording always stops.Trancer wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:09 pm
Can you tell me if there is still the problem with Cubase when adding a track, playback stops, if still very annoying anyway.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 900 posts since 7 Aug, 2018
Thank you for your feedback and reviews.
It seemed to me that there was always this concern.
As much for me it was not a problem with reading, but with recording.
I had read that for some time, so, well on recording the problem.
Not great that, unless I am mistaken, is this a concern that is not new?
What do you mean by better audio engine?
Since Cubase is a juggernaut with a lot of coding since time, what could bring as big significant changes to improve the Workflow, new interesting tools (not additions of plugins) in the future against Studio One which is compared to Cubase at the very beginning of its creation.
I'm not denigrating Cubase at all, I'm just wondering what Steinberg could still develop in terms of tools that make sense and hold the road against Studio One.
It seemed to me that there was always this concern.
As much for me it was not a problem with reading, but with recording.
I had read that for some time, so, well on recording the problem.
Not great that, unless I am mistaken, is this a concern that is not new?
What do you mean by better audio engine?
Since Cubase is a juggernaut with a lot of coding since time, what could bring as big significant changes to improve the Workflow, new interesting tools (not additions of plugins) in the future against Studio One which is compared to Cubase at the very beginning of its creation.
I'm not denigrating Cubase at all, I'm just wondering what Steinberg could still develop in terms of tools that make sense and hold the road against Studio One.
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
Cubase doesn't have a container device
- https://s1manual.presonus.com/Content/B ... uments.htm
so routing between for ex. some MIDI(CC) generator (or arp) + multiple instruments together is PITA by default, Cubase needs some VST wrapper, I've found BC Patchwork best, all the others have some MIDI imprecisely(synching issue), but before anything else ... I would check the latency in Cubase with my actual hardware
can be highly PITA worth to check forum of Steinberg too about it
IMO S1 generally would be a better DAW just looks ugly as hell
- https://s1manual.presonus.com/Content/B ... uments.htmso routing between for ex. some MIDI(CC) generator (or arp) + multiple instruments together is PITA by default, Cubase needs some VST wrapper, I've found BC Patchwork best, all the others have some MIDI imprecisely(synching issue), but before anything else ... I would check the latency in Cubase with my actual hardware
can be highly PITA worth to check forum of Steinberg too about it
IMO S1 generally would be a better DAW just looks ugly as hell
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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- KVRist
- 256 posts since 9 Jun, 2018
Look I like both DAWs and have used both of them. I love and hate them both, well I love and hate every DAW out there...
If you're wondering which one is "better", well ultimately they can both get the job done.
I could list stuff all day, but here are just a few things that I run into all the time:
If you're wondering which one is "better", well ultimately they can both get the job done.
I could list stuff all day, but here are just a few things that I run into all the time:
- Cubase is better looking than Studio One. Studio One is one of the ugliest DAWs, only eclipsed by Reaper.
- Cubase has offline processing. Studio One doesn't.
- Studio One allows folders to be used as a bus, Cubase doesn't.
- Studio One has Splitter, Cubase doesn't have such a feature.
- Cubase has a better sampler (Sampler Track) than Studio One (Sample XT).
- You have to enable Q-Link in Cubase to do things to multiple tracks at the same time, which is beyond stupid.
- Cubase has multiple different undos. Like one for the arranger and one for the mixer. Which is stupid. Studio One, undo is undo!
- Studio One you can have a marker track stay at the top easily. Cubase you have to do this ghetto split the window thing.
- Cubase has the almighty middle mouse to pan. Studio One works like Ableton.
- It's easier to get an empty automation track in Studio One than Cubase.
- Cubase is better at finding the plugin I'm looking for when typing in the plugin search.
- I feel like Cubase has better stock plugins, but I really use mostly 3rd party stuff so it's not so important.
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- KVRAF
- 35676 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
It's not pretty, but, the GUI somehow grew on me. It's functional. Sure, could be better, but, frankly, Cubase's GUI could be better too.rageix wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:27 pm
- Cubase is better looking than Studio One. Studio One is one of the ugliest DAWs, only eclipsed by Reaper.
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- KVRAF
- 1894 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
Studio One needs to be more like Ableton and have clip launchers
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
Really?rageix wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:27 pm
[*] Cubase has a better sampler (Sampler Track) than Studio One (Sample XT).
I never use the Cubase sampler, I find Studio Ones sampler much better. Is there something I am doing wrong? In what way do you find it better?