I missed this second suggestion when I initially read your response. This is what seems to have finally done the trick. Thanks!baconpaul wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:04 pm If it still wedges rename the %Documents%\Surge XT to %DOcuments%\OriginalSurgeXT and restart. (Rename vs delete so the files stick around).
Vember Audio Surge is now open-source
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- KVRist
- 147 posts since 22 Jan, 2010 from Oregon, U.S.
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- KVRian
- 1213 posts since 25 Dec, 2018
Ohh curious what’s in the directory. Do you have a looping symlinks or some such? We recurse that dir.bboxdw wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 4:53 amI missed this second suggestion when I initially read your response. This is what seems to have finally done the trick. Thanks!baconpaul wrote: Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:04 pm If it still wedges rename the %Documents%\Surge XT to %DOcuments%\OriginalSurgeXT and restart. (Rename vs delete so the files stick around).
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- KVRist
- 147 posts since 22 Jan, 2010 from Oregon, U.S.
Contents of previous Documents\SurgeXT:baconpaul wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:48 am Ohh curious what’s in the directory. Do you have a looping symlinks or some such? We recurse that dir.
fx presets
midi mappings
modulator presets
patches
skins
wavetables
readme.txt
surgepatches.db
surgxtkeyboardmappings.xml
surgxtuserdefaults.xml
Nothing unusual in any of the subdirectories, such as symlinks. I've zipped and attached the xml and db files in case you wish to examine.
Within skins is afterdarkxt.surge-skin and dark-purple-xt.surge-skin, so at one point I thought maybe Surge was trying to pull up a skin that no longer worked; but the user defaults xml file was referencing the dark mode skin, so that wasn't the case.
I do have my Documents directory on a drive other than C, so I don't know if whatever type of symlink-type reference Windows sets up for that that could have caused an issue?
I hope something here provides helpful clues for avoiding/addressing similar situations in the future. Let me know if there's any other info that may be helpful. Thanks again for the continued work on an amazing instrument!
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- KVRian
- 1213 posts since 25 Dec, 2018
We’re thrilled to release Surge XT 1.1!
XT 1.1 is an upgrade from our January XT 1.0 release and is fully compatible with 1.0 patches and sessions. It adds several big new features, including edit history (Undo/Redo), support for the new CLAP standard, expanded and improved support for accessible interfaces like screen readers, several new DSP and voice management features, and much more. You can read the full changelog here: https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/changelog/
Now that we have XT 1.1 shipped, we are going to slightly adjust our strategy and turn to our work on reviving Shortcircuit, updating the Surge VCV Rack plugins, and giving some more tender loving care to our other Surge Synth Team tools: B-Step, Monique, and Stochas. We’ll also be keeping busy working on CLAP, including releasing some microtuning-specific CLAP tools. But this means we aren’t currently planning a Surge XT 1.2.
Our strategy for Surge for the rest of this year is to collect bug reports (because, of course, there will be bugs - we even know of a few edge cases in 1.1 we didn’t squash before release date) and release an XT 1.1.1, 1.1.2, and so on as maintenance fixes.
And all the while use our work on Shortcircuit and other tools to accelerate our super-ambitious plan for a "Surge XT 2.0", which we’ve started outlining in GitHub issues, and which is scheduled for some year whose first two digits are 20.
So, Surge XT 1.1 family will be with us for a while. Please enjoy it, and if you find something wrong, let us know (via Discord or GitHub is best!). And if you want to help, we welcome coders, testers, and everyone else!
And most importantly, enjoy making music with Surge!
XT 1.1 is an upgrade from our January XT 1.0 release and is fully compatible with 1.0 patches and sessions. It adds several big new features, including edit history (Undo/Redo), support for the new CLAP standard, expanded and improved support for accessible interfaces like screen readers, several new DSP and voice management features, and much more. You can read the full changelog here: https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/changelog/
Now that we have XT 1.1 shipped, we are going to slightly adjust our strategy and turn to our work on reviving Shortcircuit, updating the Surge VCV Rack plugins, and giving some more tender loving care to our other Surge Synth Team tools: B-Step, Monique, and Stochas. We’ll also be keeping busy working on CLAP, including releasing some microtuning-specific CLAP tools. But this means we aren’t currently planning a Surge XT 1.2.
Our strategy for Surge for the rest of this year is to collect bug reports (because, of course, there will be bugs - we even know of a few edge cases in 1.1 we didn’t squash before release date) and release an XT 1.1.1, 1.1.2, and so on as maintenance fixes.
And all the while use our work on Shortcircuit and other tools to accelerate our super-ambitious plan for a "Surge XT 2.0", which we’ve started outlining in GitHub issues, and which is scheduled for some year whose first two digits are 20.
So, Surge XT 1.1 family will be with us for a while. Please enjoy it, and if you find something wrong, let us know (via Discord or GitHub is best!). And if you want to help, we welcome coders, testers, and everyone else!
And most importantly, enjoy making music with Surge!
- KVRAF
- 7061 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
"Now that we have XT 1.1 shipped, we are going to slightly adjust our strategy and turn to our work on reviving Shortcircuit, updating the Surge VCV Rack plugins, and giving some more tender loving care to our other Surge Synth Team tools: B-Step, Monique, and Stochas."
Ah, I long to see Shortcircuit working!!
What a real pleasure it will be to have that plugin working on Linux!!
Ah, I long to see Shortcircuit working!!
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRian
- 1213 posts since 25 Dec, 2018
The ultra-alpha we put together in the late winter (which is what gave us the confidence to mention it as our next step) runs on linux today! 100% linux native for all our tools. And that ultra-alpha is a terrible-UI version of most of SC2. But I'm super excited too, especially once I realized what SC kinda is...audiojunkie wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:39 pm Ah, I long to see Shortcircuit working!!What a real pleasure it will be to have that plugin working on Linux!!
- KVRAF
- 7061 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Beautiful!! I love the roadmap!! 
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- 7061 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
BTW, what does surge-xt-linux-x86_64-1.1.0.tar.gz contain that
surge-xt-linux-1.1.0-pluginsonly.tar.gz does not? What is contained in each of these files?
surge-xt-linux-1.1.0-pluginsonly.tar.gz
and
surge-xt-linux-x86_64-1.1.0.tar.gz
Thanks!!
surge-xt-linux-1.1.0-pluginsonly.tar.gz does not? What is contained in each of these files?
surge-xt-linux-1.1.0-pluginsonly.tar.gz
and
surge-xt-linux-x86_64-1.1.0.tar.gz
Thanks!!
Last edited by audiojunkie on Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- 7061 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Also a quick website suggestion:
The following website:
https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/downloads
Points only to the DEB format. It would be better for Linux users to see the other distro format options as well.
For example, the hypertext link for:
Linux 64-bit VST3 (built on Ubuntu 18.04)
points to:
https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/re ... -1.1.0.deb
It would be better, since only the Debian family of distros uses APT, to point to the generic install file as well.
Thanks for listening!!
The following website:
https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/downloads
Points only to the DEB format. It would be better for Linux users to see the other distro format options as well.
For example, the hypertext link for:
Linux 64-bit VST3 (built on Ubuntu 18.04)
points to:
https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/re ... -1.1.0.deb
It would be better, since only the Debian family of distros uses APT, to point to the generic install file as well.
Thanks for listening!!
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRian
- 1213 posts since 25 Dec, 2018
Thanks for the feedbackaudiojunkie wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:27 pm Also a quick website suggestion:
The following website:
https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/downloads
Points only to the DEB format. It would be better for Linux users to see the other distro format options as well.
For example, the hypertext link for:
Linux 64-bit VST3 (built on Ubuntu 18.04)
points to:
https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/re ... -1.1.0.deb
It would be better, since only the Debian family of distros uses APT, to point to the generic install file as well.
Thanks for listening!!![]()
The link right below links to all the formats - we could improve the text there I guess to include this fact. The home page also links to how to install on the varied sets of systems we convince ourselves are the same by calling them Linux. And I think a little blurblet on the down load page is indeed appropriate. I’ll add it tonight
But in either case the zip and rpm will be built in ubuntu 20 so your mileage may vary depending how far afield your distro is.
- KVRAF
- 7061 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Edit: Comment deleted. My question was answered above. Thanks!
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- 7061 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Yes, I agree that it will clear things up. Also, thanks for keeping distros that don't use APT in mind! Thanks again!baconpaul wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:32 pmThanks for the feedbackaudiojunkie wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:27 pm Also a quick website suggestion:
The following website:
https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/downloads
Points only to the DEB format. It would be better for Linux users to see the other distro format options as well.
For example, the hypertext link for:
Linux 64-bit VST3 (built on Ubuntu 18.04)
points to:
https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/re ... -1.1.0.deb
It would be better, since only the Debian family of distros uses APT, to point to the generic install file as well.
Thanks for listening!!![]()
The link right below links to all the formats - we could improve the text there I guess to include this fact. ...I think a little blurblet on the down load page is indeed appropriate. I’ll add it tonight
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRian
- 1213 posts since 25 Dec, 2018
Updated with a link to the page with all the formats for the particular release, and clarity that default linux link will be a .debaudiojunkie wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:27 pm Also a quick website suggestion:
The following website:
https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/downloads
Points only to the DEB format. It would be better for Linux users to see the other distro format options as well.
